What constitutes bloat and distribution is a personal thing. At some point if Haikuor any other light weight OS is to be other than standard means by some that isno longer industrial. My thoughts are to make it usable, and man by all means makesa tool like an OS usable. So many versions of UNIX/BSD layer have various andsubtle differences without man standard most coming to Haiku will question its powerout of box without man. --- On Tue, 8/24/10, Alex von Gluck <kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Alex von Gluck <kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [haiku] Re: Man To: haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 8:17 PM On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:10:43 +0000, scott mc <scottmc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Agreed it should be available for those who live on the command line, > but disagree that it should be part of a "standard" distribution. -1 Bah, this is turning into 'should we include vim' all over again. Personally I think that small comforts like vim and man should be included by default... They are small in size and help UNIX and Linux folks cope. Lets face it, it's more likely that new Haiku users will come from an open-minded windows/Linux/BSD/UNIX/OS X world then a strict Windows, BeOS, or Mac world. Just my two cents :) -- Alex http://haikufire.com