Howdy, I realized, that in its current state the MiniTerminal is not really helpful while trying to get attaching gdb to a crashed app working properly. The main problem is that I have a good deal of debug output that goes into the terminal so that earlier output is lost due to missing scrolling support (or is there a way to scroll and I missed it?). Also not so nice, but probably bearable is that the general text output speed (especially when scrolling) is really slow (I use qemu, so things are generally a bit slower). So, what is the state of the real Terminal? Is it already working? Who feels responsible for it? Which is the right one anyway -- there seem to be two implementations? What does a broken zip file in repository (http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/haiku/haiku/trunk/src/apps/terminal/muterm-2.3.zip?rev=11769&view=log)? What is the state of app server scrolling support in general? IIRC the last time I had a look at Playground, something was still broken. Unless there are better options I would add scrolling support to MiniTerminal, if necessary even hacking a bit to circumvent app server scrolling support. Any opinions? CU, Ingo