[gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
- From: "Scott E Ford" <w8sef@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:53:05 -0500
Hi ya all,
I do agree with what you guys are saying. I could never afford the
PK on my own. I have heard some contradictory information on the costs of
maps for GPS systems. I do know that we had a guy that was using the gps on
some dredging equipment, told us that there system was Very expensive. I
really cannot rember the price. There system consisted of a very accurate
GPS unit, a desktop computer, and software.
Scott I do know that the cost for there software was probably 10 times more
expensive then the Braille gps.
-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gerry leary
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:19 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
Yes Yes,
You said it all. I have never been involved in the creation of any of these
systems, but I can say after owning a trekker and looking at the Braille
note system, Neither were what I would call a good mechanical design. To
many cables straps and clips. When we can get rid of all of that we will be
much better off. Yes Mike has a point about the size of our market place
and costs, but also our market place suffers to many good projects that get
dropped or even not finished and we the blind user takes the hit. Mean
while the people who started the projects take their pay checks and ideas
somewhere else and the rest of us are left holding the bag. Our original
GPS talk was a good example. Even though it was larger we still don't have
a product that will hold the whole country, and both products in some way
need a computer to make them completely useful.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <meearls@xxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 1:09 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
> This is what I am getting at. I quite frankly need a second or third
> something because this Braille Note is coming apart at the seems
> literally and those people who have picked up keys from my qwerty
> keyboard will vouch for me on this but the idea of another note taker
> and one with a braille display is not at all appealing. This is why I
> like my Trekker because when I want a walk I can turn it on and go,
> nothing to set or load just switch it on.
>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Dave" <shotgun@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:42:31 -0700
>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: the best of all worlds
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>>Mike, the cost of the gps is not what deters me, I would prefer the
>>functionality of the Gps with the PK over the braille note because the
>>PK is much more up to date from a technical view, however, I do not
>>need a PK.
>>The combined cost of the PK and the GPS unit is about $7000.00, which
>>is more than I can personally justify, and my wife, who is more than
>>tolerant of my wants and needs balks at the price as well. Again, the
>>cost of the GPs unit itself is not in question, it is the cost of the
>>PK, much of which I do not need if I just want a GPS unit. I have
>>used both the Trekker and the GPS with the Voice note, my opinion is
>>that the functionality and features of the GPS unit made by
>>SenderoGroup is far superior as far as meeting my needs. This may be
>>due in part to more accurate maps and the availability of many more
>>and relevant POI'S both within the maps and those submitted by users,
>>as well as the thoughtfulness of some of the features.
>>It is my hope that the functionality of the GPS unit developed by
>>SenderoGroup will some day be incorporated into an affordable unit,
>>perhaps more limited in functionality to the GPS itself. I believe
>>there are many individuals who would purchase such a unit.
>
>>Dave
>
>>AUDIT THE IRS!
>
>>Check out my home page at:
>>http://myweb.cableone.net/dwgordon/
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: "GPS-talkusers-freelists.org" <GPS-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:04 AM
>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] the best of all worlds
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>>Regarding recent comments about the best of Trekker and BrailleNote in
>>one system. I have to say that the one-pound BrailleNote PK with a
>>Bluetooth GPS receiver weighing a couple ounces is amazingly small and
>>the lack of wires is wonderful. I dare say Trekker weighs more than that
altogether.
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>>Now to the issue of price. If as many blind people or their funding
>>agencies bought GPS as purchased a screen reader, the price could
>>probably be cut in half. The blindness market is small and GPS
>>purchases are a small portion of an already small market. In order to
>>have a low priced GPS, it will have to be an off-the-shelf mass market
>>product. In that case, you will have a low price but reduced
>>functionality and support. We just need to be realistic that there are
>>trade offs between price and functionality.
>>We can't have our cake and eat it too.
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>>We are hopeful that with more users out there and more education of
>>rehab folks and O&M instructors, the blindness
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>> GPS market will grow so we can continue to bring you more and more
>>features and maybe even lower prices.
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>>Several of us from Sendero monitor this list and we take your
>>suggestions very seriously. Sendero just past its 5 year anniversary
>>and we are very grateful for your customer loyalty. We have come a
>>long way in that time and we look forward to more major strides over the
next five years.
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>>Mike
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>>Michael G. May
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>>CEO Sendero Group
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>>Developers and distributors of BrailleNote GPS Distributing
>>BrailleNote, VoiceNote, Miniguide, The Tissot Silen-T tactile watch,
>>Talks cell phone software and the ID Mate, bar code reader
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>>MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>http://www.SenderoGroup.com
>
>>(1-888-757-6810, Fax (530) 757-6830, Mobile (530) 304-0007 Sendero
>>Group, LLC
>>1118 Maple Lane, Davis, CA 95616-1723, USA
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>>Latitude, 38 33 9.239 North
>>Longitude, 121 45 40.145 West
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