[gmpi] Re: My plugin system
- From: "Michael Gogins" <gogins@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gmpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 00:22:59 -0400
Although most musicians don't want to program DSP graphs, being able to do
so within the GMPI standard would be extremely valuable, not only for
experimental musicians who DO want to program graphs, but also for plugin
authors who want to write plugins for those other musicians by programming a
graph in a higher-level language such as Csound or SuperCollider. This
facility already exists in the music world in the form of SynthEdit and
CsoundVST. I have always wondered why nobody has done a VST plugin version
of PD.
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Michael Gogins
gogins at pipeline period com
Irreducible Productions
Silence, a language for programming music and sound
Available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/silencevst/
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Ballini" <marcoballini@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <gmpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:28 PM
Subject: [gmpi] Re: My plugin system
> On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 23:53, Tim Hockin wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:38:27PM +0300, Juhana Sadeharju wrote:
> >
> > > >I don't think GMPI is aiming to be as low-level as "Sine Oscillator"
and
> > > >"VCA" modules. While it COULD, there are optimizations you can make
in such
> > > >a modular system that GMPI can't make. Is that what you are asking
about?
> > >
> > > Yes, but the important thing was the plugin re-usability.
> > > A plugin system which would scale from low-level to high-level
> > > is possible, I'm sure. One could always offer a monolithic plugin
> > > opcode if optimization is desired.
> >
> > I think you'll find the people on this list disagree by-and-large. Most
of
> > the plugins GMPI is looking to replace are monolithic. That is how
> > companies make money on plugins. No one is paying for a "Sine
Oscillator"
> > VST. Optimizing the API for such tiny plugins at the cost of monolithic
> > plugins would be a mistake, IMHO. Now if we can make BOTH easy, then
let's
> > do it. But focus on monolithic FIRST.
> Also, well designed monolithic plugins are more easy and immediate to
> use (especially if accompanied by a good gui). I don't think that many
> musician feel very comfortable with systems like PD or CSound.
>
> Ciao,
> Marco
>
>
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