Translational motion is also referred to as "sliding" or "rolling" motion (to change position without rotation). see attached diagram .....In HC the nightly axis of rotation or the celestial pole the axis translates around the orbit of the earth. This is to say that the axis always faces the same direction ..Iʼll even use Paulʼs diagram to show it ( i expounded upon it) ( i will reinvent the wheel latter) The celestial pole does not rotate around the ecliptic axis as Regner showed in his diagram..!? Although I agree (as per HC/AC) the celestial axis "translates"/ ("slides" to keep looking in the same direction of the sky) around the ecliptic axis annually. ( if faces that same direction at the same angle, it does not rotate as Regner showed it to, and if it did that would even further frustrate any and all attempts to explain it) On 24 hour intervals the camera is inline with the spokes on a bicycle running from the night side of the earth to the sun. On 24 hour intervals ( midnight) over the course of a year the camera is in itʼs radial position, not its "translated position".( Every 23 h 56 min the camera would be in its translated position.) A radial position over the course of the period of any orbit cause a net effect of a rotation of the film and camera around the ecliptic axis in the same way that the camera would nightly. See Paulʼs diagram attached....... Notice, that on 24 hour intervals regaudell of the translated conditon of the celestial axis the observer is in a radial position with the spokes extending out from the sun to the observer, over the cours of a year the fixed camera will have rotated around the ecliptic axis. The rotational condition cannot be avoided and thus cannot be negated observably. ----- Original Message ---- From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:42:44 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Two spin axes of Earth? Regner, Paul and all, You cannot have "translational motion" (or any motion for that matter) where every 24 hours lined up as a spoke on a wheel (midnight) at the same point on earth while in a orbit around the sun and not have a rotational condition for the fixed observer/photo plate.....That is "TECHNICALLY" called a "physical absurdity".!?. Nor can It even be modeled in reality period!......Even if his diagram was true, which it was not even close... Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Regner T From Regner Trampedach Tue Nov 13 14:47:09 2007 Thank you for your illustration EarthOrbit2.gif (9KB). It awaits Allen's confirmation of course, but assuming this is forthcoming, it explains what he was saying -- which was beyond my ability to comprehend. Well done! Oops! While writing this, another saga arrived -- it appears Allen is withholding his confirmation! I got the impression he didn't read all the stuff in capitals but I may be wrong. You state (in capitals on a line by itself) THERE IS NO ROTATION AROUND THE ECLIPTIC AXIS. I take it this is a technically correct statement which does not rule out translational motion about this axis? And of course revolution about this axis would also be incorrect -- that motion is about the Sun. Comments/corrections? Paul D Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now.
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