Dear Neville, I can't see any difference in the two videos. What does this mean? Are you not able to simulate that which you want to try and do with a camera? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: translational motion of the earth...... I agree. Steven and I have placed a couple of (big) animated gifs on our web site, under Miscellaneous ==> Star motion 1 and Star motion 2. Spot the difference!! Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com