----- Original Message ----- From: <geocentric@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:16 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: The honesty of scientists > Dear Jack, > > >>Give us a link to these scary creationists who'll kick our butts then. > > > > Try www.icr.org > > Thank's, I'll check it out. > > >>So what's stopping you, how do think people learn science in the first > >>place. > > > > That's what I have just started to do - see my latest posting 'Dynamic > > equivalents'. > > You are not really thinking for yourself though. You go on and on about > the "unsupported assumptions" of science yet you take a piece of flawed > logic put forward by Neville Jones and just keep reiterating it as if it > is fact. A system of bodies moving relative to each other is one > dynamic system no matter how you choose to look at it or what > co-ordinates you use to model it. Explain this using my posting of the 3 models why they are all the same. > > > Why don't you show your contempt simply by ignorng me rather than using > > invective? t is rather childish don't you think? > > I don't have comtempt for you, I respect the fact that you engage in > conversation with an atheist like me, I just don't know how to address > your paranoia about scientists "hiding the truth". If you just refuse > to believe anything that doesn't suit you then how can we possibly have > a rational discussion. Well just follow my back to basic postings as and when they are posted. At the moment my first one is being contested by yourself and Alan. I responded to Alans comments and started again. That's what I have just done with you. So be patient, you'll see eventually what I'm getting at. Even if you do think I'm paranoid don't waste words on it it isn't helpful. I only disbelieve / question that which has assumptions as part of its authority. > > Euclid isn't under attack by the way. He stated his assumptions and > worked from there. The fact that his fifth assumption may not hold for > the geometry of the universe we live in does not invalidate his work and > in fact his work is the basis for different geometries with a modified > fifth postulate. Well as I have been saying I am wary of postulates, they are having a habit of becoming talked into being an observed fact . Jack