[geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus.. Nick & Dan
- From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:19:53 -0700 (PDT)
(N) You construe scriptures to make them appear to you to be consistent. In
doing that, you apply your own unique brand of reasoning. You then deny that
you have used any reasoning, because the scriptures are self consistent
(A) There is no construction or self consistency of Scripture in a quote "THIS
IS THAT". It is you and Nick both who use scripture as long as it suits you
then ignore it when it does not.. other wise you could argue your positions
from scripture but you do not because your position is not maintained in
scripture! Otherwise you could demonstrated that it does. It is both you and
Nick that Construct Scripture. You keep wanting to use "reasoning" but neither
of you actually apply it. If you are going to use scripture as the basis of
your arguments then how is ignoring scripture "reasonable" or logical? I have
yet to ignore any scripture and where there is a question I refer to scripture.
If scripture is the authority then why cant you do the same.. If it is not the
authority then why are you trying to use it to support your positions. You are
not using scripture you are reasoning and finding scripture that suits you, but
only as so long as it suits you. The inconstancy is enti
rely
yours and Nick's. Show from scripture that these things are not the case.....
otherwise you are arguing from a baseless position in the first place, and
trying to make it look like your "reasoning"?????? Your doing everything in
your power to ignore the point!... Further, I have ignored Paul in the past and
argued strictly from the L& P and Jesus and Revelation you won't accept plain
scripture their either .. so you can?t say I am arguing in circles with Paul.
In fact you have yet to establish that as a fact except to say that you belive
it based on your reasoning about the Old law, which itself was your
interprtiation completly external and ignoring SCRIPTURE in the L&P and Jesus.
You want to belive it, fine but that proves nothing.
"Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Allen Daves
<allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You miss the point. No, Nick has not missed the point at all. It is you who
cannot see the point. You construe scriptures to make them appear to you to be
consistent. In doing that, you apply your own unique brand of reasoning. You
then deny that you have used any reasoning, because the scriptures are self
consistent. In the same way, you support Saul by quoting extensively from his
epistles. Never do you consider that you could be wrong. You cannot see the
circular nature of your position. There is only one anchor. Only one certainty.
Everything else must tie in with that. If it contradicts it, then it has been
thrown in by the devil to mislead those that are not looking for the anchor.
Neville.
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