[geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception
- From: "philip madsen" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 09:09:11 +1000
Paul, I am trying to avoid the personal attack approach to MS science.. I know
I have been guilty of it, as you say, its human nature. But its also hard to
justify and accept people who accept lies for monetary gain or a stable income.
For example the Australian Broadcasting Commission have a large budget devoted
to programs promoting global warming.. "Carbon Cops" is just one that comes
quickly to mind. Purely on commercial grounds, they cannot take kindly to
supporting an alternative idea which if it got popular would pull the rug out
from these enterprises.. I myself am tempted to play down the truth to keep
efforts up in the developement of electric vehicles and other renewable
energies .. I like forests of trees as well.. But that does not change the
truth.. Its still dishonest to allow a "good lie" I don't mean on moral
grounds.. Kindness is a white lie. But science should never tolerate it.
I much prefer to keep working on the science experiments, searching the truth,
just for my own satisfaction..
Since I presented the experiment relating to my stationary (absolute) paint
brush on the moon, and following the inputs from others, particularly yours,
introspection has dampened my enthusiasm.
The whole lot (of my text) can be simplified, as you said, to just one
experiment, which I will present with a diagram in a separate post.
My whole hypotheses was dependent upon the unproven and unprovable statement
that a single photon travels in a straight line unaffected by any external
forces.
I believe that to be true in the aether. But I cannot be sure that such would
be the case independent of any movement of the aether itself, which for the
moment I hold to be rotating daily around earth centre with the universe.
Despite all the experiments of MM and Miller nobody can yet say so with
certainty. ( that EMR is moved by aether flow) .
The uses of the word "medium" as regards the aether is pure speculation, and is
often misconstrued as a substance. I see an entirely different "mechanism", as
I presented last year. The closest to "medium" that I have found so far, that
would give me cause to change that view, is Aspdens theory of electrical
charges, along with Brush's theory of very short vibrating waves. That's an
ongoing study.
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Deema
To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:20 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moving Earth Deception
Philip M
I'm sorry Philip, I got preoccupied going through your post checking the
numbers and my mind wandered when I got close to the end. I hadn't arrived at
understanding just what it was you were trying to show. Correct me if I haven't
figured it out yet -- you're not directly concerned with the speed the Moon is
moving, only its contribution to determining whether the Earth is moving.
If this is so, then is it your purpose to show that a beam of light -- fixed
in space -- will paint a band of light on the Moon's surface as it sweeps by at
1. 30 km/s +/- 1 km/s (depending on which side of its orbit it is on) if the
Earth is moving or 2. 27 km/s if the Earth is not moving; and that this can be
determined from the length of the band?
Firstly, I must agree with Robert B that you'll need an awfully powerful
laser. However, if you were to adapt my strategy of measuring the angle of lead
for a hit on the LRRR, I don't see why this is not feasible. Of course you
would need to conduct the experiment at full moon or new moon rather than half
moon to maximise the effect. But you have only a 3 km/s +/- 1 km/s difference
-- not a lot to play with. The difference in angle of lead is then a minimum of
298 u deg and a maximum of 596 u deg. This is less than A. Centauri's parallax.
If however you take a two stage approach to the problem, you may be able to
improve your chances. There are four possibilities -
Earth moves at 30 km/s Moon moves at 1 km/s
Earth moves at 30 km/s Moon moves at 27 km/s
Earth moves at 0 km/s Moon moves at 1 km/s
Earth moves at 0 km/s Moon moves at 27 km/s
First, measure whether the Moon is crossing the Earth's orbit at 1 km/s or 27
km/s. This has two possibilitie outcomes -
Earth moves at 30 km/s Moon moves at 1 km/s (T) (1)
Earth moves at 30 km/s Moon moves at 27 km/s (F) (2)
Earth moves at 0 km/s Moon moves at 1 km/s (T) (3)
Earth moves at 0 km/s Moon moves at 27 km/s (F) (4)
or-
Earth moves at 30 km/s Moon moves at 1 km/s (F) (5)
Earth moves at 30 km/s Moon moves at 27 km/s (T) (6)
Earth moves at 0 km/s Moon moves at 1 km/s (F) (7)
Earth moves at 0 km/s Moon moves at 27 km/s (T) (8)
If the first set is found, then repeat the tests at new and full moon. We
need to determine whether the required angle of lead is
atan ( 30+/-1 / 384 400 ) or -
atan ( 1 / 384 400 )
If the result is ~ 4.32 m deg or ~ 4.62 m deg
then (1) is true.
If the result is ~ 149 u deg
then (3) is true.
If the second set is found, again repeat the tests at new and full moon. We
need to determine whether the required angle of lead is
atan ( 30+/-27 / 384 400 ) or -
atan ( 27 / 384 400 )
If the result is ~ 8.5 m deg or 447 u deg
then (6) is true
If the result is ~4.0 m deg
then (8) is true.
Some of these possibilities are easier to differentiate than others. (6) when
velocities add would stand out as would (3) neither of which fit either the
helio or geo(static) models. The two favoured models are the closest together.
What a shame. Oh! Well it was fun thinking about it.
Paul D
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