[geocentrism] Re: Last call
- From: "Neil Robertson" <nroberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:08:44 +1000
> Neil has confirmed my thought on how the satellites are positioned, and
> that
> they can be theoretically launched to fly east to west. I say if they do
> this it would confirm the HC people and end GC speculation. enter google
> for east -west orbits and only 17 pages come up. 12 of them concerned an
> Indian launch , which had to be typo errors or else the Indians a doomed
> to
> fail. One was a UFO and four were theoretical.
There are retrograde orbit satellites but I suspect that there aren't many
deleberately set up that way. There is no problem in having them orbit east
to west instead of west to east (except if you wanted a geosychronuos orbit
that would be impossible of course) the point is there are drawbacks to that
approach. The biggest is that you would have to use more fuel to compensate
for the motion the rocket had on the launch pad as a result of the earths
rotation. Fuel costs money and you would have to have a particular need for
the satellite to travel east to west to waste that money on extra fuel if it
wasn't necessary.
You mentioned India as a possible country that has sent up retrograde
satellites and I have read that somewhere myself. Another is Israel who sent
its first satellite retrograde as it did not want to send it up over
neighbouring countries (politics you know). Instead it was launched over the
Mederteranean and that requires of course an east west launch.
There is a whole slew of satellites and other objects that have orbited or
are orbiting in a retrograde orbit. I suggest you do do a Google search on
satellite situation report. The second listing in that search should be a
catalogs and data link. There are zip files on that site you can download
that gives the orbital elements of the various objects we humans have sent
up. It lists the type country involved etc and also shows the orbital
inclination. Anything with an inclination of greater than 90 degrees is in a
retrograde orbit. You will see that there are quite a few.
> That seemed strange. So I ask, lets consider the east west launcher. In
> theory we would be slowing the ship till it was stationary and in synch
> with
> the sun, which is alleged to be stationary....OK So to keep this bird up
> would be sheer motor force, before we got it going on further and
> accelerating up again towards the 111,000 k speed which would put it in
> the
> identical orbit as the geostat was except it would be going the other way
> making a 24 hour orbit. We would see it circling the earth twice.
No the Sun does not come into it. If you wished to send up a satellite in
the east west direction and to orbit at the same height as the usual east
west geosynchronous satellite the same parameters are needed. The satellite
will be obiting at the height of approximately 37000 km and a speed of
around 7000 mph. The only difference involves the expenditure of more feul
as the rocket has to overcome the speed of rotation at the launch site that
is imparted by the rotating earth. As you say it will be orbiting the earth
twice every 24 hours.
> As I said before. This would prove HC and give GC a problem.
>
> The problem is the point where the ship is in synch with the sun.
>
> Philip.
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