I can change if if you need me too for your purposes........ I used Evngraved 3d lettering.. Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Allen, When I printed out your drawing the type seems to be white with a shadow. Any reason for this? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Daves To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: JA's 3D diagram I agree Nevile, I would suggest the following change for simplicity..? ( see attached)..although the base line means that we can look at the axis from any location on the earth, it does matter where the ecliptic axis really is I think this is important because moving from one side of the globe to the other side does not parallax the ecliptic axis even though we may view it from anywhere on the globe and see the same thing. I?m also convinced that is a point of misunderstanding for many..(The difference between viewing a axis and where the axis is in reality & why that is important)........I?m including mine here for you Ja so as to make my garbled words clear as mud,...(It was drawn in 3d too, notice the earth is not facing the same side in each view as well as the shine point hehhehehhe) ..... but It is not as cool as yours!.....:D