[geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:44:13 +1000

Prove to me that Jupiter actually has an atmosphere. You can't.  Bernie..  

I think such would be difficult or impossible Bernie, so long as you are 
wearing those blinkered goggles. 

But I know you are just joking.. You are here to stir the agnostic pot..

Philip.  


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bernie Brauer 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:10 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.


        Paul,

        "The average distance between Jupiter and the Sun is 778 million km."

        Prove to me that Jupiter actually has an atmosphere. You can't.

        90% of scientists can't even figure out the deception of 911
        and also the Apollo Moon Landing Deception, so that doesn't say much
        for their credibility or smarts.

        Bernie   

        --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

          From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
          Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.
          To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 8:37 AM


          Bernie B
          I've asked you several times and you have not responded. I ask again 
-- if space is not a vacuum, and would strip away the Earth's atmosphere were 
it orbiting the Sun, why doesn't Jupiter have its atmosphere stripped away? 
Same for Saturn's rings AND its atmosphere? Ditto for Uranus and Neptune? (You 
don't dispute that they orbit the Sun which orbits the Earth, do you? Indeed, 
they orbit much faster in your model -- 'All the better to have your atmosphere 
striped away my dear!' Why is it NOT so?
          Paul D






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          From: Bernie Brauer <bbrauer777@xxxxxxxxx>
          To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2008 2:32:25 PM
          Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.

                Philip,

                No Flat Earth is here:
                http://sites.google.com/site/earthdeception/noflatearth

                When I said ( or was it when I wrote? ) that I didn't believe 
outer space
                was a vacuum, I meant that it was not a perfect 100.0000% 
vacuum.
                It could even be 99.9999% a vacuum but that would be enough
                resistance to have an effect on the movement of the Earth so 
that
                it would nullify any heliocentricity hypthesiseseses, or however
                one spells the plural word.

                Bernie  


                --- On Mon, 10/20/08, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

                  From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.
                  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                  Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 11:58 PM


                  Very good Bernie. Thats gone to favorites..   I might find my 
flywheel formula there..  .  How come with all that behind you , you still come 
out with jokes about a flat earth. and how space can blow you off the shuttle? 
.  Philip
                    ----- Original Message ----- 
                    From: Bernie Brauer 
                    To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                    Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:31 AM
                    Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.


                          Physics Equations Formulas Calculator:
                          http://www.ajdesigner.com/index_physics.php

                          --- On Mon, 10/20/08, PETER CHARLTON 
<peter.nambo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

                            From: PETER CHARLTON <peter.nambo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                            Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.
                            To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                            Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 4:56 PM


                            I was thinking today about this, I ride a 
motorcycle or two, I have to lean the bike going around roundabouts to 
counteract the centrifugal force, the same angle of lean if I go around a small 
roundabout fairly slowly, or a large roundabout fairly quickly.

                            The centrifugal force then must be the speed 
relative to the angle of curvature.

                            So, there has to be a formula to calculate 
centrifugal force at any given speed around any given curve.

                            Though the earth spins quite fast, the angle of 
curvature is quite small, would be interesting to see how this centrifugal 
force compares to a gramophone record which spins quite slowly, but with a much 
greater angle of curvature.

                            Pete Charlton 
                              ----- Original Message ----- 
                              From: philip madsen 
                              To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                              Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:23 PM
                              Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.


                              Yes you are correct..  Its the peripheral 
speed..perhaps... too hard for me.  But getting back to your original question, 
The natural shape to which a fluid would form is a sphere. around the centre of 
gravity. There is a bulge at the equator, which the maths men have calculated 
to be correct for the earths rate of spin. Likewise a lb of butter weighs more 
in England than it does in Papua. Which means of course water has been moved 
from the poles to the sea on the equator. distinct from other tidal effects. 

                              I believe their assessment. However as the world 
is not spinning, then as said elsewhere this force is due to the aether doing 
the 24hour spin or rotation through and around the earth. The effect is the 
same as any other body in the solar system that is spinning in the aether. Its 
a matter of relative motions between matter and aether. ..  demonstrated only 
due to the unique place the earth occupies.    A stumbling block for the 
agnostics.. 
                              Philip. 
                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                From: PETER CHARLTON 
                                To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:50 PM
                                Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.


                                I would have thought it was the speed, rather 
than the number of rotations that cause centrifugal force.
                                More revolutions cause more speed which is what 
increases the centrifugal force.
                                If it was just the number of rotations, why can 
the toy soldier stand up ok near the centre of said record, but move it out a 
couple of inches whereas, still spinning the same amount of times, he falls 
outward, not from wind resistance by the increased speed, but by increased 
centrifugal force due to be further from the point of axis.

                                Pete
                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                From: philip madsen 
                                To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:07 AM
                                Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Centrifugal force.


                                Peter if the record is only turning 1 rev per 
day, there cannot be the same effect on your toy soldier as happens when it is 
doing 33 rpm. Im not expert, but this seems to be the key. Imagine your record 
player doing only 1 rev per day, and then extending its size to a millionmiles 
in diameter. The speed certainly increases the further out the toy soldier 
walks, but the centrifugal force is tethered to the same centre of gravity.

                                Philip. 
                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                From: PETER CHARLTON 
                                To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:53 AM
                                Subject: [geocentrism] Centrifugal force.


                                At the moment at work Iam getting people to 
think by asking them how, with the equator spinning at 1038 miles an hour, and 
the poles sationary, that all the earths water doesnt just slide down to the 
equator with centrifugal force, especially considering how even the slight pull 
of the moon is enough to drag the seas.

                                Can you scientific guys give an explaination as 
to why this doent happen if the Earth really is spinning please?
                                There must be a formula as to the amount of 
centrifugal foce that is at work at the equator compared to the poles.
                                Just putting a toy soldier on a spinning LP 
record and it flys off as it gets away from the middle, how much more so must 
water?

                                Pete Charlton   

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