[GeoStL] Re: [geocache] Happy New Years and caching changes.

  • From: MBG <martin@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:17:30 -0600

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I enjoy finding caches that have been around a long time because I  
like reading all the old logs and seeing all the pictures, even if its  
just online. Almost all the people I've talked to back in Dayton feel  
the same. Maybe that's where we differing here...

We were all frustrated when a cache called PewterZs (http://coord.info/GC72DA 
) despite being replaced by a cacher (not the owner). The person that  
replaced it just published a new cache that IS PewterZs hill except  
with no logs and no pictures. Better than having no cache there, but  
needless to say we aren't too happy with that reviewer.

This goes back to what I think should be the permanence of caches  
(when not prohibited by parks of course).

ben

On Jan 13, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Mike Lusicic wrote:

> -
>
> Well, you say
> I've never been bothered by caches being disabled for a few months if
> they'reeventually fixed, anyway. Which is why you do it. But the  
> question
> isn't whether it is you that is bothered. Just as an extreme  
> example, the
> guyshooting someone may not be bothered, but the guy getting shot  
> may not
> think much of it at all. If someone is wanting to place a cache in a  
> park
> youare using and he can't because of the distance rule, then you  
> deprive
> manypeople of hunting the cache for months because you are not  
> maintaining
> it. It isn't all about where you live, but it is the disservice to  
> others.
> Itisn't the reason for months to fix the cache, it is the fact that  
> it is
> months before they are fixed regardless of the reason. The residence  
> rule is
> to avoid ONE of the reasons for slow maintenance and has nothing to  
> do with
> where you live. Myotis makes a valid point about caches that take a  
> long
> hiketo get to. I can see that point because of the nature of the cache
> itself. So I can see the exceptions. Not giving up caches and not
> maintainingthem for months is for your convenience and doesn 't  
> address the
> inconvenience to many others that it causes.
> MBG wrote: - Well, the caches are close to my house, I'm just not in  
> town
> 3/4th of the year these days. If a reviewer told me that the caches  
> needed
> tobe fixed immediately or archived I could probably find someone to  
> fix them
> for me. But I think its preferable to not archive caches if  
> possible, and
> since I might be moving back there in a few years I don't see why I  
> should
> let someone adopt them. I don't see what's wrong with having caches  
> in two
> places if you're living in both for part of the year. I've always  
> thought
> therule requiring you to live nearby was to prevent vacation caches,  
> not
> multiple residences. I've never been bothered by caches being  
> disabled for a
> few months if they're eventually fixed, anyway. There are of course
> exceptions... user "bennet" travels between Texas and Ohio  
> frequently and
> hashundreds of hides in each place. Which I think would be okay in  
> theory,
> but he rarely maintains any of them. If they need maintenance he just
> archives them. Quote "When they are gone, they are gone." I like to  
> think of
> caches as somewhat permanent. I thought it used to say something  
> about that
> in the gc.com hiding guide. mbg On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Mike  
> Lusicic
> wrote: - I think that the rules state that you need to be near by so  
> you can
> maintainthe cache, or have someone near who can. Otherwise you take  
> up space
> where another nearby cacher could place a cache that won't go for  
> months
> needing repair. Or am I remembering something wrong here?
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