[GeoStL] Re: Common sense when hiding
- From: Michael Rogers <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 04:52:26 -0700 (PDT)
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How does it all tie in? Hmmm...I got it:
How does that mom or dad sitting there know if you're
a cacher or a predator? I know, I know...you have a
GPSr in your nad and what-not...but think of
this...John Wayne Gacy was a clown with all the
trappings...
-Michael
--- RNX <_rnx_@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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I thought the discussion was about geocachers on
playgrounds, not about pedophiles on playgrounds. I
totally support not allowing peddophiles to stalk
playgrounds. How do we make the jump from suspicious
parent to convicted pedophile. That's the tricky part.
I think that i'm going over to nancy's backyard for
breakfast. Maybe i'll get some eggs florintine if i'm
lucky. What were those coords again?
------ Original Message ------
Received: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:09:30 PM EDT
From: Mike Lusicic <lusicic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Common sense when hiding
- Well, I am going to agree and disagree with you. I
think the Patriot Act was given that name because it
needed the disguise to get it through. It is anything
but Patriotic and is an erosion of everyone's rights.
However..... your stand on rights trumping other
rights just does not hold water. You are taking the
same position as the guy who wants to maintain his
absolute right to freedom of speech by yelling FIRE in
the crowded movie theater. Your rights are NOT
absolute. They are dependent upon not infringing the
rights of others. Felons may pay taxes, but they are
not allowed in certain areas. Child molesters pay
taxes yet may not be allowed near playgrounds. Think
of the rights of the child molester since he cannot
find your cache. Are you as concerned about his rights
as yours? And last but not least, there is this thing
called COURTESY. Just because you feel you have a
right to do something doesn't make that a courteous
thing to do. I have just as much right to public
ground as another, but it is just not courteous to
stomp on someone else's foot because that foot happens
to be on the ground you pay taxes to support. Do you
think you should be able to blare a stereo at 1000
watts into someone's ear because you think you should
have the right to play music as loud as you want?
Courtesy. Think about it. You might find your attitude
change a little if you think of someone else instead
of YOUR rights alone.
There are many things wrong in this country, but I am
sticking with it, and maybe even trying to make a
difference. I don't cut and run when some self serving
politician is working to undo 200 years of freedom in
this country. But if you cut and run because you
didn't like performing a courtesy to others, then what
is keeping you here after the Patriot Act?
Stephen Martin wrote:
- I am a citizen. i pay taxes. Parent or no, you're
concern is not able to trump my RIGHTS!i am not gonna
fight. i will still hunt. just not submit to making
everyone elses concern trump my rights. period
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