- Stephen, I've not found either cache so I can't speak to the specifics of your hides. As a man, I feel extremely unconfortable going anywhere near a playground when children are present. Even though I am perfectly harmless, others do not know that. Parents are extremely protective of their children (as they should be) and I can see no reason to give them any cause for alarm. In "their" minds, there is no reason for an older man to be anywhere near a playground unless he means to do harm. As a parent, I appreciate their feelings and would have felt the same way when my kids were there. In my point of view, I see no reason for placing any of the caching waypoints anywhere on or near playgrounds. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Martin <faery_generic@xxxxxxx> To: geo stl <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [GeoStL] Common sense when hiding Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:45:35 -0500 >- >Ok here I go again with issues I would like feedback on. > >I have two hides that are thorns in my side regarding >others beliefs that they are inappropriate in the >location. > >First is Independence via metro (GCWZT9) which is located >near residences but on public space. The second waypoint >brings you to a obviously city spot to gather more info >and the final is tucked near a public sidewalk adjacent >to an empty lot. I have followed hiding rules and it IS >all on public property. However, a few seekers have >shied away from it and questioned my use of common sense. >I don't get it. Should all caches be away from any view >of property owners? If so many many many caches are >hidden without common sense. > >The second is Hagrid's Flyer (GC10YH7). This one is >disabled, but today I will be moving the final to a >different location but use the current coordinates as the >start point still. It is on a piece of playground >equipment and few folks have expressed concern regarding >its placement because i assume they assume they will be >viewed as perverts for being that close to a play ground >while hiding. Is this not a family affair for many? Do >children love this game as much as I do? The answers to >both are YES. The cache is also very kid themed. I am >moving the final because it is impossible to keep a >container secured, not because of others undue concern. > >The way I see it, these caches are hidden within the >guidelines set. The challenge of the hunt is to find >them using a GPSr, info on the cache listing and common >sense when seeking. Don't damage the area when you hunt, >be stealthy and follow laws and ordinances in the hunt >area. We have a right to use public space. I can find >danger and possible negative Geocaching PR at any cache >if I want, but I think I will search and hopefully find >them instead. > >By the way, one cache is fairly new and the other is over >3/4ths of a year old... and no one has been arrested, >nothing has been damaged and finds have been logged. I >guess I just want some true evidence that these hides are >inappropriate. > >Thanks in advance for helping me become a better all around >player in this sport/game. > >Stephen > > > **************************************** > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including >unsubscribing from this > list, click -----> >//www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived >http://tinyurl.com/87cqw Steve **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw