Re: [foxboro] replacing field Op panels

The Wyse 5150SE is a truly an embedded Linux PC with a flash disk.  It
does provide an easy to use set of GUI "Control Panel" utilities to
configure itself and remote connections much like a PC X-server product.
Centralized configuration, updates, and add-ons are accessed from a
designated ftp server; though it can boot entirely standalone.

It is much easier to set up than the cryptic, single command line
interface to ROM memory of the NCD X terminals.

John Metsker
General Mills, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mueller, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [foxboro] replacing field Op panels


John,

        Is the setup for the Wyse 5150SE terminal the same as the NCD
xterminals?


James Mueller
Process Control Engineer
Cliffs Michigan Mining Co.
(906) 475-3534
JDMueller@xxxxxxxxxxxx



-----Original Message-----
From: John Metsker [mailto:John.Metsker@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:29 PM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] replacing field Op panels


At General Mills, we have started to lean toward using the new Wyse
5150SE terminal as a replacement for HP/NCD X terminals.  It is a Linux
based device that is server agnostic; it supports X and Windows terminal
services (RDP/ICA).  It needs to be mounted in an industrial just like a
PC or X terminal.  It's retail price is approximately $400.

I would recommend a non-Windows based, thin client device (i.e. no
moving parts) in the "field."  I would avoid duplication of display
engineering in a 2nd tool at all costs.

John Metsker
General Mills, Inc

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On Behalf Of Corey R Clingo
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:15 PM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] replacing field Op panels


Just throwing out some ideas; I haven't personally tried any of this.
Each=3D20 has its advantages and disadvantages

"Industrial" environmentally-hardened PC with Ethernet running some=3D20
Windows variant and Exceed/GoGlobal/VNC, or custom OS with X server, and

remote DM/FV from an AW/WP.  These can be had with solid-state flash
disks=3D20 (no moving parts), panel-mount form factors, and NEMA 4/7
enclosures.  A

special I/A  environment could be set up to limit what the field
operator=3D20 could see/change.


Panelview or something similar connected via FBM224/FDSI and Modbus.
The=3D20 Panelview would have to be capable of acting as a slave (polled
device)=3D20 unless the FDSI supports being a Modbus slave itself (I =
don't
believe the=3D20 FBM224 does).


Other variations: OPC connectivity, for example, or using some
fiber-optic=3D20 KVM extenders to put only the monitor and any input
devices in the field

with the CPU (either a WP or a non-I/A PC) residing in the rack room.


Corey Clingo
BASF Corp.








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I have a need to remove a number of operator hardwired field panels.
I=3D20 want to replace them with a "display" panel.  All I/O is wired to
the I/A. If=3D20 it was a PLC I would install a panelview, anyone got =
any
ideas? Brian Long Arkansas Kraft





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