The Wyse 5150SE is a truly an embedded Linux PC with a flash disk. It does provide an easy to use set of GUI "Control Panel" utilities to configure itself and remote connections much like a PC X-server product. Centralized configuration, updates, and add-ons are accessed from a designated ftp server; though it can boot entirely standalone. It is much easier to set up than the cryptic, single command line interface to ROM memory of the NCD X terminals. John Metsker General Mills, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mueller, Jim Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:39 PM To: 'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: Re: [foxboro] replacing field Op panels John, Is the setup for the Wyse 5150SE terminal the same as the NCD xterminals? James Mueller Process Control Engineer Cliffs Michigan Mining Co. (906) 475-3534 JDMueller@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: John Metsker [mailto:John.Metsker@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:29 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] replacing field Op panels At General Mills, we have started to lean toward using the new Wyse 5150SE terminal as a replacement for HP/NCD X terminals. It is a Linux based device that is server agnostic; it supports X and Windows terminal services (RDP/ICA). It needs to be mounted in an industrial just like a PC or X terminal. It's retail price is approximately $400. I would recommend a non-Windows based, thin client device (i.e. no moving parts) in the "field." I would avoid duplication of display engineering in a 2nd tool at all costs. John Metsker General Mills, Inc -----Original Message----- From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corey R Clingo Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:15 PM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] replacing field Op panels Just throwing out some ideas; I haven't personally tried any of this. Each=3D20 has its advantages and disadvantages "Industrial" environmentally-hardened PC with Ethernet running some=3D20 Windows variant and Exceed/GoGlobal/VNC, or custom OS with X server, and remote DM/FV from an AW/WP. These can be had with solid-state flash disks=3D20 (no moving parts), panel-mount form factors, and NEMA 4/7 enclosures. A special I/A environment could be set up to limit what the field operator=3D20 could see/change. Panelview or something similar connected via FBM224/FDSI and Modbus. The=3D20 Panelview would have to be capable of acting as a slave (polled device)=3D20 unless the FDSI supports being a Modbus slave itself (I = don't believe the=3D20 FBM224 does). Other variations: OPC connectivity, for example, or using some fiber-optic=3D20 KVM extenders to put only the monitor and any input devices in the field with the CPU (either a WP or a non-I/A PC) residing in the rack room. Corey Clingo BASF Corp. "BrianLong" <blong@xxxxxxx> Sent by: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 03/16/2005 11:42 AM Please respond to foxboro To: "Foxboro"=3D20 cc:=3D20 Subject: [foxboro] replacing field Op panels I have a need to remove a number of operator hardwired field panels. I=3D20 want to replace them with a "display" panel. All I/O is wired to the I/A. If=3D20 it was a PLC I would install a panelview, anyone got = any ideas? 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