Re: [foxboro] GDEV configuration

  • From: "Rick Mol" <Rick.mol@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:24:43 -0500

Tim,

The (very) basic GDEV configuration for a motor looks like this:

AVLLM1=1  (Stopped or off, may or may not be used, depending on the feedback
available from the field)
AVLLM2=1  (Running)
DEVLM1=PAKIN.PAKCIN.BX (Off)
DEVLM2=PAKIN.PAKCIN.BX (Running)
If the MCC needs a pulsed input from the DCS, set PLSOPT=1 and PLSTIM to x
sec
Use INVCO2 to invert the output as needed.
Set TOC to a reasonable time, we use 5 seconds.

Make sure the IGNLM1 (ignore limit) and 2 are set to 0.

Another consideration if you use a field HOA, is to either use the NOT Auto
switch input if it is available to inhibit the alarms, connect to the
.INHIB. Also set the .INHOPT to the desired setting.  Otherwise the
operators will get an alarm every time the motor is started in the field.

Regards,
Rick Mol
Coyote Technologies
231.750.6348


-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lowell, Timothy
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:33 AM
To: 'foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [foxboro] GDEV configuration

List,
This one should be easy for the list. We are upgrading our Motor Control
Centers, and we have some fancy new MCC buckets that can talk over Ethernet
to an FDSI block. Someone decided it would be a good idea to allow the board
operator to turn the pumps and exchanger fin fan motors on and off from the
DCS, as well as being able to operate them locally as they always had done
in the past. Previously, if we needed a pump or fin fan motor started, the
only option was to send an operator out to do it. In most cases, we didn't
even have feedback status for the pump or fin fan motor, but now we do.

Since this project was run by an Electrical Engineer who can barely spell
I/A, he didn't put much consideration into the graphics or DCS configuration
until very late in the game, and he ended up farming the job out to Invensys
at the last minute. The Invensys engineer he hired was already on site
helping us with a cutover, and he had to throw something together in his
"spare" time. He did a very thorough and complete job with the information
he was given and with the time constraints he had, but unfortunately, he had
to leave and go to another job, and now what we have isn't quite right.

The Invensys Engineer used GDEV blocks on the graphic to start and stop the
field devices. What we are seeing is that the feedback from the status bits
is not configured correctly. The GDEV currently does not know what the
status of the device is. If you call up the Detail Display of one of the
GDEV blocks, it is in whatever position it was left at by the graphic, even
if someone has started or stopped the device locally with a field switch.

My question is, how do you properly configure a GDEV for ON/OFF status
feedback? There are all these options, and the block book is not
particularly helpful in deciphering which to use or not use. We basically
want the GDEV block to know what the status of its device is, so that when
we click on the device, it knows whether to prompt us to start it if it is
off, or to stop it if it is on. Right now, the GDEV is assuming that
whatever the last command we sent to it is the status of the device, which
isn't necessarily true. The device status comes back to the DCS via the
first bit of an FDSI PAKIN block, but I haven't had any luck figuring out
which parameter on the GDEV to connect it to. There is only a RUNNING bit,
and no OFF bit; that is, you can only tell the device is OFF if the RUNNING
bit is zero.

If I could get Invensys to work on this, I would, but it's not easy
traveling to Alaska, and I think this should be an easy fix.

Thanks,

Tim Lowell
Tesoro Corporation | 54741 Tesoro Rd, Kenai, AK 99611 | 907-776-3526 (work)
| 210-439-5914 (cell)


 
 
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