Hi Carl, Yes there is incoming traffic and I believe it is much higher that clean up especially due to attachments. But I thought this is the way it works: * Let's say for example I have a 10 GB database * Cleanup policy deletes 1 GB, so the database stays at 10 GB but will shrink down to 9 if I do offline defrag * Meanwhile if I receive new emails, database goes to 11,12,13 GB and higher still having the potential of loosing 1 GB * Doing offline defrag bring it down 1 GB as example from 13 to 12 Isn't it the way it should be? ________________________________ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Houseman Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:38 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] Re: free space after offline defrag If you purged deleted items worth 500 MB/week for 4 weeks and never received any new mail at all, then you should get back 2GB of real space for an offline defrag. Seems likely/possible though, that you are receiving new items, and probably more volume in new items than in the old items being deleted/purged. This would be the case with most organizations. Carl ________________________________ From: exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:exchangelist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ara Avvali Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:26 PM To: exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ExchangeList] free space after offline defrag Hello everyone I just have this strange feeling. We got a 2003 SP2 server. I have a mail box manager policy that cleans up junk mail and deleted items after a week. Every Sunday night I get a report that at least 500 MB is deleted. So when I do the offline defrag once a month at least I should get 2 GB of free space back from database. But that doesn't happen. As an example I ran a defrag last night after 2 month wait and I only got 120 megabyte back. Something is not right and my database keeps growing larger. Any idea? Thanks