[etni] Re: NBA booklet and some question
- From: "D.Rosenfeld" <denro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 05:25:05 +0200
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The questions and answers below have been very helpful. Still one thing is not
completely clear.
A student who takes module A this year and goes on the following year to do
modules B-E, with the intention of having the 3-point mark to rely on should
he fail the four-point test and takes the 4pt oral test - what happens if
he fails the 4pt test?
Will his oral still count or will he have to retake it?
At 18:39 08/11/2003 +0200, you wrote:
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>Dear Rivka,
>
>Sorry for not answering you sooner.
>My answers are below in capital letters.
>
>Judy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Rivka Lewenstein
>To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:41 PM
>Subject: [etni] NBA booklet and some question
>
>
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>To Judy and everyone else who I'm sure put many, many hours into the NBA
>booklet,
>
>Kudos on a job well-done. The booklet is clear and concise, yet includes
>basically all the information that we need to know. (I say basically because
>teachers HAVE come up with various questions, and I have a few of my own as
>well.) It was a real pleasure for me to read it. Now I feel that I really
>have everything I need to know about the Bagrut at my fingertips, as
>compared to the past when I had to look up old chozrei mancalim, call up
>inspectors and others "in the know", or post my question on Etni. This
>booklet will definitely make life a lot easier for us English teachers.
>
>I was also happy to see the order form for the booklet available on the Etni
>site, since this is one booklet I feel every English teacher MUST have a
>copy of, at least until the new Bagrut has been assimilated by all.
>
>Now, for a few questions and comments:
>
>1) Will we be getting more sample exams over the course of the year? I am
>planning to have my 11th graders take modules A, B and C (some only A) this
>year, and feel that as good as the sample exams are, they're not enough to
>work with. I would like more sample exams for practice and to give as
>Matkonot. Is there any chance of this happening?
>
>NO ADDITIONAL SAMPLE EXAMS WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE MINISTRY. HOWEVER
>TEACHERS CAN ADAPT PREVIOUS BAGRUT EXAMS NOW THAT YOU HAVE THE SAMPLE ONES.
>
>2) Regarding the extensive reading program, the booklet says that 1-point
>students need 2 book reports, and that 3-point students need 2 book reports.
>Does this mean that 3-point students need 2 book reports when doing module A
>+ another 2 when doing modules B and C, or do they need only 2 in all? (The
>reason I ask is because at the bottom of the same page, regarding the
>literature program, it is made very clear what the difference is between
>3-point students who have already done module A and 3-point students who
>haven't done module A.)
>
>THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION. THE ANSWER IS THAT IF STUDENTS
>START WITH MODULE A THEY READ TWO BOOKS. IF THEY MOVE UP TO MODULES B AND
>C, YES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO READ AN ADDITIONAL TWO BOOKS. (All in all 4
>books).
>
>3) Bari already asked this, but in a slightly different fashion: Let's say
>that I have students doing only module A this year, and next year they do
>modules B-E, with the intention of having the 3-point mark to rely on should
>they fail the four-point test. Do they have to be tested twice orally in the
>same year? After all, the oral test for 3 points is different from the
>4-point oral test. If they take only the 4-point test, what would they do if
>they failed the 4-point test?
>
>IF PUPILS TAKE THE THREE POINT EXAM (A, B AND c) AND THEN WANT TO TRY THE
>FOUR POINT EXAM (D AND E), THEN YES, THEY DO NEED TO TAKE THE ORAL AGAIN
>BECAUSE THE RATING SCALES ARE DIFFERENT.
>
>Thanks and all the best,
>Rivka
>
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Rivka Lewenstein
>To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:41 PM
>Subject: [etni] NBA booklet and some question
>
>
>**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org ****
>
>To Judy and everyone else who I'm sure put many, many hours into the NBA
>booklet,
>
>Kudos on a job well-done. The booklet is clear and concise, yet includes
>basically all the information that we need to know. (I say basically because
>teachers HAVE come up with various questions, and I have a few of my own as
>well.) It was a real pleasure for me to read it. Now I feel that I really
>have everything I need to know about the Bagrut at my fingertips, as
>compared to the past when I had to look up old chozrei mancalim, call up
>inspectors and others "in the know", or post my question on Etni. This
>booklet will definitely make life a lot easier for us English teachers.
>
>I was also happy to see the order form for the booklet available on the Etni
>site, since this is one booklet I feel every English teacher MUST have a
>copy of, at least until the new Bagrut has been assimilated by all.
>
>Now, for a few questions and comments:
>
>1) Will we be getting more sample exams over the course of the year? I am
>planning to have my 11th graders take modules A, B and C (some only A) this
>year, and feel that as good as the sample exams are, they're not enough to
>work with. I would like more sample exams for practice and to give as
>Matkonot. Is there any chance of this happening?
>
>2) Regarding the extensive reading program, the booklet says that 1-point
>students need 2 book reports, and that 3-point students need 2 book reports.
>Does this mean that 3-point students need 2 book reports when doing module A
>+ another 2 when doing modules B and C, or do they need only 2 in all? (The
>reason I ask is because at the bottom of the same page, regarding the
>literature program, it is made very clear what the difference is between
>3-point students who have already done module A and 3-point students who
>haven't done module A.)
>
>3) Bari already asked this, but in a slightly different fashion: Let's say
>that I have students doing only module A this year, and next year they do
>modules B-E, with the intention of having the 3-point mark to rely on should
>they fail the four-point test. Do they have to be tested twice orally in the
>same year? After all, the oral test for 3 points is different from the
>4-point oral test. If they take only the 4-point test, what would they do if
>they failed the 4-point test?
>
>Thanks and all the best,
>Rivka
>
>
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