[etni] Re: NBA booklet and some question
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- Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:39:24 +0200
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Dear Rivka,
Sorry for not answering you sooner.
My answers are below in capital letters.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
From: Rivka Lewenstein
To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:41 PM
Subject: [etni] NBA booklet and some question
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To Judy and everyone else who I'm sure put many, many hours into the NBA
booklet,
Kudos on a job well-done. The booklet is clear and concise, yet includes
basically all the information that we need to know. (I say basically because
teachers HAVE come up with various questions, and I have a few of my own as
well.) It was a real pleasure for me to read it. Now I feel that I really
have everything I need to know about the Bagrut at my fingertips, as
compared to the past when I had to look up old chozrei mancalim, call up
inspectors and others "in the know", or post my question on Etni. This
booklet will definitely make life a lot easier for us English teachers.
I was also happy to see the order form for the booklet available on the Etni
site, since this is one booklet I feel every English teacher MUST have a
copy of, at least until the new Bagrut has been assimilated by all.
Now, for a few questions and comments:
1) Will we be getting more sample exams over the course of the year? I am
planning to have my 11th graders take modules A, B and C (some only A) this
year, and feel that as good as the sample exams are, they're not enough to
work with. I would like more sample exams for practice and to give as
Matkonot. Is there any chance of this happening?
NO ADDITIONAL SAMPLE EXAMS WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE MINISTRY. HOWEVER
TEACHERS CAN ADAPT PREVIOUS BAGRUT EXAMS NOW THAT YOU HAVE THE SAMPLE ONES.
2) Regarding the extensive reading program, the booklet says that 1-point
students need 2 book reports, and that 3-point students need 2 book reports.
Does this mean that 3-point students need 2 book reports when doing module A
+ another 2 when doing modules B and C, or do they need only 2 in all? (The
reason I ask is because at the bottom of the same page, regarding the
literature program, it is made very clear what the difference is between
3-point students who have already done module A and 3-point students who
haven't done module A.)
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION. THE ANSWER IS THAT IF STUDENTS
START WITH MODULE A THEY READ TWO BOOKS. IF THEY MOVE UP TO MODULES B AND
C, YES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO READ AN ADDITIONAL TWO BOOKS. (All in all 4
books).
3) Bari already asked this, but in a slightly different fashion: Let's say
that I have students doing only module A this year, and next year they do
modules B-E, with the intention of having the 3-point mark to rely on should
they fail the four-point test. Do they have to be tested twice orally in the
same year? After all, the oral test for 3 points is different from the
4-point oral test. If they take only the 4-point test, what would they do if
they failed the 4-point test?
IF PUPILS TAKE THE THREE POINT EXAM (A, B AND c) AND THEN WANT TO TRY THE
FOUR POINT EXAM (D AND E), THEN YES, THEY DO NEED TO TAKE THE ORAL AGAIN
BECAUSE THE RATING SCALES ARE DIFFERENT.
Thanks and all the best,
Rivka
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rivka Lewenstein
To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:41 PM
Subject: [etni] NBA booklet and some question
**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org ****
To Judy and everyone else who I'm sure put many, many hours into the NBA
booklet,
Kudos on a job well-done. The booklet is clear and concise, yet includes
basically all the information that we need to know. (I say basically because
teachers HAVE come up with various questions, and I have a few of my own as
well.) It was a real pleasure for me to read it. Now I feel that I really
have everything I need to know about the Bagrut at my fingertips, as
compared to the past when I had to look up old chozrei mancalim, call up
inspectors and others "in the know", or post my question on Etni. This
booklet will definitely make life a lot easier for us English teachers.
I was also happy to see the order form for the booklet available on the Etni
site, since this is one booklet I feel every English teacher MUST have a
copy of, at least until the new Bagrut has been assimilated by all.
Now, for a few questions and comments:
1) Will we be getting more sample exams over the course of the year? I am
planning to have my 11th graders take modules A, B and C (some only A) this
year, and feel that as good as the sample exams are, they're not enough to
work with. I would like more sample exams for practice and to give as
Matkonot. Is there any chance of this happening?
2) Regarding the extensive reading program, the booklet says that 1-point
students need 2 book reports, and that 3-point students need 2 book reports.
Does this mean that 3-point students need 2 book reports when doing module A
+ another 2 when doing modules B and C, or do they need only 2 in all? (The
reason I ask is because at the bottom of the same page, regarding the
literature program, it is made very clear what the difference is between
3-point students who have already done module A and 3-point students who
haven't done module A.)
3) Bari already asked this, but in a slightly different fashion: Let's say
that I have students doing only module A this year, and next year they do
modules B-E, with the intention of having the 3-point mark to rely on should
they fail the four-point test. Do they have to be tested twice orally in the
same year? After all, the oral test for 3 points is different from the
4-point oral test. If they take only the 4-point test, what would they do if
they failed the 4-point test?
Thanks and all the best,
Rivka
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