Is the intention really to encourage people to enter at the grassroots level
or is it to prevent the grassroot level people from ever reaching the
clinical level? Just a query!!
I was at the meeting in Winterthur and remember a very rushed agenda, at the end of a very long and demanding day. There was a strong feeling amongst many participants that decisions had been made in advance of the meeting and that we were being bulldozed. There was little transparency in the proceedings. I whole heartedly support this new initiative, but I like many others am concerned.
With regards to Cornelia's post, while it certainly isn't necessary to have medical training to work with learning disabled children, it may well be necessary to have a degree in education!!!
Incidentally, I think Norway is a wonderful place to have future meetings!!
Catherine Ruckert MA,
From: "Gruzelier, John H" <j.gruzelier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: esnr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <esnr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [esnr] Re: SAN Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:16:11 +0100
Thankyou for your support.
The training programme will have three streams ;- clinical, educational and optimal performance. The intention will be to encourage people without clinical and medical training to enter the educational and optimal performance programmes.
My own research programme also includes hypnosis and energy medicine, and therefore I am very aware of the value (and limitations) of these procedures, and the added advantages of eclectic approaches to optimise performance and health.
With best wishes,
-----Original Message----- From: esnr-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:esnr-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cornelia Dollfus Sent: 16 June 2004 20:50 To: ESNR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [esnr] SAN
Dear John, Dear Members of E-iSNR
Thank you John and other board members for your work and your ideas. I think it would be good to have a seperate association in Europe. It will be good to stand on our own feet, doing research, and have european standards especially for certification.
Here in switzerland we have since years the situation that we have a
therapeutic field (MD`s and Psychotherapists) and a great field of in
complementary and alternative medicine working people. Some of these methods
are even payed by assurances.
So we would be very happy with a solution that includes on one hand the
scientific and therapeutic people and on the other hand these people working
more on educational side. To work with learning disabilities, with
inattentive childs a.s.o.
does not assume universitiy studies of psychology or medicine.
I think it would be better to integrate such people of the nonmedical field
who are doing very good work for many clients and to give them the
opportunity to learn from the scientists. In this way we can develop a
community of many professional working people for a more therapeutic and /or
scientific and for a more basically applied educational and /or prophylactic
field of performance - training.
Cornelia Dollfus MD
-- Cornelia Dollfus Dr. med., Ärztin für Psychotherapie und Neurofeedback Feldeggstr. 12 8008 Zürich
Co-Leiterin Neurofeedback-Institut Schweiz
Mitglied u.a. NAS, i-SNR, AAPB, SGP, ZGPP, SGIPA; FIPA
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