[duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in TeX/LaTeX documents

  • From: "Joanmarie Diggs" <joanmarie.diggs@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:35:51 -0400

Understood.  And thanks for considering it for this release.  

I have attached the sort of document I use when trying to figure out how
things work rather than the sort of document I would actually create.  I
hope it helps!  If you want something, uh, more traditional let me know. :)

Just out of curiosity (and for the tentative planning of workshops, etc.), I
remember a target release date of sometime in May.  Is that still the plan?

Thanks much for everything!
Joanie

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:29 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in TeX/LaTeX 
> documents
> 
> Joanie,
> 
> Feature requests are fine, but less and less likely to be 
> taken into account for this release.
> 
> In this case, what you suggest is feasible.  But if you have 
> any full SN sample files, even (or perhaps especially) simple 
> ones, these would be helpful.  I find that code snippets of 
> Latex are good for describing things, but the full file can 
> influence how we handle the snippets.  So I don't like to get 
> too deeply into problems like this without sample files.
> 
> - Peter 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:58 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] handing of numbered lists in TeX/LaTeX documents
> 
> Hi all.  This is not new to 10.6 so it's more of a feature 
> request and question.  Hope no one minds.
>  
> When I create a document in Scientific Notebook and format 
> text to be a
> Heading1 or Heading2, Duxbury maps my text upon import to be 
> an H1. or H2.
> However, when I format text in Scientific Notebook as a 
> numbered list, Duxbury applies the para. style.  The same 
> behavior, of course, occurs in Word when you use automatic 
> numbering instead of the List Number style.  I'd happily use 
> the appropriate style in Scientific Notebook, but I'm not 
> convinced there is one.  Is there? (that's the question part 
> of this message
> <smile>)  
>  
> Assuming there's not a style I can choose which will map to 
> Duxbury's List.
> style.... I took a gander at a Scientific Notebook document 
> in Word Pad.  As best as I can tell, the conversion seems to 
> be pretty straightforward.  For
> instance:
>  
> \section{My Heading} in SN becomes <h1.>My Heading</h1.> in DBT. 
> \subsection{Something Else} in SN becomes <h2.>Something 
> Else</h2.> in DBT
>  
> Any place there's a $ in SN, in DBT you get either [ts] or 
> [te].  I assume the first $ on a line is [ts] and the second 
> [te].  When DBT sees \item, it replaces it with a number 
> according to this rule:  The Nth \item in the document gets 
> an N in front of it.  Thus:
>  
> \item $10+5=$
> \item $10-5=$
>  
> results in:
>  
> <para.>1. [ts]10+5[te]</para.>
> <para.>2. [ts]10-5[te]</para.>
>  
> However, it seems that numbered lists begin with 
> \begin{enumerate} and end with \end{enumerate}.  Is DBT using 
> them or ignoring them?  Based on the handling of nested lists 
> I'm guessing the latter.  But more about that in a moment.  A 
> numbered list of two items looks like:
>  
> \begin{enumerate}
> \item $10+5=$
> \item $10-5=$
> \end{enumerate}
>  
> So, why not map \begin{enumerate} to <list.>, \end{enumerate} 
> to </list.> and terminate each \item line with [<]?  That 
> would make importing and editing numbered SN documents a bit 
> faster.  Plus, if my guess is correct, this might cause 
> nested lists to be handled better.  Currently, DBT seems to 
> count each \item without attention to the presence of nested 
> lists.  Thus
>  
> \begin{enumerate}
> \item $10+5=$
> \item $10-5=$
> \begin{enumerate}
> \item $10\div 5=$
> \end{enumerate}
> \end{enumerate}
>  
> results in
>  
> <para.>1. [ts]10+5=[te]</para.>
> <para.>2. [ts]10-5=[te]</para.>
> <para.>3. [ts]10÷5=[te]</para>
>  
> But in SN it is:
>  
> 1. 10+5=
> 2. 10-5=
>     a. 10÷5=</para>
>  
> So.... Am I making sense? <smile>  And is there any chance of 
> such list handling being added prior to the release of 10.6 
> or is it a more complex problem than I realize?
>  
> Thanks for your time!
> Joanie
>  
>  
> 
> 
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