[duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in TeX/LaTeX documents

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:47:05 -0400

Joanie,

Thanks for the samples.

Release will be late May at best, as we don't yet have a release candidate.
June is more likely.  I cannot let things slip beyond that, though.

- peter 

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From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:36 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in TeX/LaTeX documents

Understood.  And thanks for considering it for this release.  

I have attached the sort of document I use when trying to figure out how
things work rather than the sort of document I would actually create.  I
hope it helps!  If you want something, uh, more traditional let me know. :)

Just out of curiosity (and for the tentative planning of workshops, etc.), I
remember a target release date of sometime in May.  Is that still the plan?

Thanks much for everything!
Joanie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:29 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: handing of numbered lists in TeX/LaTeX 
> documents
> 
> Joanie,
> 
> Feature requests are fine, but less and less likely to be taken into 
> account for this release.
> 
> In this case, what you suggest is feasible.  But if you have any full 
> SN sample files, even (or perhaps especially) simple ones, these would 
> be helpful.  I find that code snippets of Latex are good for 
> describing things, but the full file can influence how we handle the 
> snippets.  So I don't like to get too deeply into problems like this 
> without sample files.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:58 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] handing of numbered lists in TeX/LaTeX documents
> 
> Hi all.  This is not new to 10.6 so it's more of a feature request and 
> question.  Hope no one minds.
>  
> When I create a document in Scientific Notebook and format text to be 
> a
> Heading1 or Heading2, Duxbury maps my text upon import to be an H1. or 
> H2.
> However, when I format text in Scientific Notebook as a numbered list, 
> Duxbury applies the para. style.  The same behavior, of course, occurs 
> in Word when you use automatic numbering instead of the List Number 
> style.  I'd happily use the appropriate style in Scientific Notebook, 
> but I'm not convinced there is one.  Is there? (that's the question 
> part of this message
> <smile>)
>  
> Assuming there's not a style I can choose which will map to Duxbury's 
> List.
> style.... I took a gander at a Scientific Notebook document in Word 
> Pad.  As best as I can tell, the conversion seems to be pretty 
> straightforward.  For
> instance:
>  
> \section{My Heading} in SN becomes <h1.>My Heading</h1.> in DBT. 
> \subsection{Something Else} in SN becomes <h2.>Something Else</h2.> in 
> DBT
>  
> Any place there's a $ in SN, in DBT you get either [ts] or [te].  I 
> assume the first $ on a line is [ts] and the second [te].  When DBT 
> sees \item, it replaces it with a number according to this rule:  The 
> Nth \item in the document gets an N in front of it.  Thus:
>  
> \item $10+5=$
> \item $10-5=$
>  
> results in:
>  
> <para.>1. [ts]10+5[te]</para.>
> <para.>2. [ts]10-5[te]</para.>
>  
> However, it seems that numbered lists begin with \begin{enumerate} and 
> end with \end{enumerate}.  Is DBT using them or ignoring them?  Based 
> on the handling of nested lists I'm guessing the latter.  But more 
> about that in a moment.  A numbered list of two items looks like:
>  
> \begin{enumerate}
> \item $10+5=$
> \item $10-5=$
> \end{enumerate}
>  
> So, why not map \begin{enumerate} to <list.>, \end{enumerate} to 
> </list.> and terminate each \item line with [<]?  That would make 
> importing and editing numbered SN documents a bit faster.  Plus, if my 
> guess is correct, this might cause nested lists to be handled better.  
> Currently, DBT seems to count each \item without attention to the 
> presence of nested lists.  Thus
>  
> \begin{enumerate}
> \item $10+5=$
> \item $10-5=$
> \begin{enumerate}
> \item $10\div 5=$
> \end{enumerate}
> \end{enumerate}
>  
> results in
>  
> <para.>1. [ts]10+5=[te]</para.>
> <para.>2. [ts]10-5=[te]</para.>
> <para.>3. [ts]10÷5=[te]</para>
>  
> But in SN it is:
>  
> 1. 10+5=
> 2. 10-5=
>     a. 10÷5=</para>
>  
> So.... Am I making sense? <smile>  And is there any chance of such 
> list handling being added prior to the release of 10.6 or is it a more 
> complex problem than I realize?
>  
> Thanks for your time!
> Joanie
>  
>  
> 
> 
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