[ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks
- From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:21:23 -0000
Akai has been industry standard for the last 20 plus years.
They aren't going to let go easily.
Years ago I used to use a Roland module version of the W30, The sample rate was
30HKZ but some how the processor made any drums I sampled sound tougher than
the source samples.
Software will get there, I don't think it's even 2 years away.
I'll personally need a much bigger computer to cope with any of the next
generation of sounds.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks
I've heard some of Darren's stuff, and he's definitely done a great job with
the kick. I tell you, though, if you hear the way the drums play out of that
Akai, it's awesome. Also, if you read what a lot of these big producers use,
most of them still use the akai mpc for their drum work. Just food for thought.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Wicketts
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:24 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks
Hi Omar,
Drum sampled hardware is without doubt tougher sounding with maybe the
exception of drumcure.
I'm referring too acoustic sound Drums when I mention Drumcure.
Darren Hartland from the list has got very good Dance styled drums on his
tracks, not sure what he is using, it's very close to top hardware regarding
the punchy sound.
I'll be recording some audio tracks this Week, it's good old Rock 'N' Roll,
I'll put a track on the forum so you can hear Superior hopefully showing signs
of a punchy beat...
I use today's technology to try and capture the yester years of the 1950's.
Welcome to the twilight Zone?
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:32 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks
Hi Steve,
Funny you say that about software drums not being as punchy as hardware.
A friend of mine brought in an Akai mpc4000 to my studio, and I have to say
that, although I have great drum samples that I run through the sfz, they still
don't hit hard like they do when you play them through the akai mpc4000. My
buddy had been telling me that for quite a while, and at first, I thought that
with good samples, you could emulate the hardware sound, but it's just not the
case. Now, I'm considering purchasing an akai mpc4000 myself. The only thing
stopping me is the accessibility question with the unit. Akai software is
definitely not accessible. So now, the question remains: how accessible is the
unit's interface.
Omar Binno
Website: www.omarbinno.com
AIM: LOD1116
Skype: obinno1
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Wicketts
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:26 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks
Hi Len,
The thing I've found about software drums is they're not usually as
punchy as top spec hardware.
Drumcure (not accessible) is the only Drums software I've come across
that really does kick hard.
Regarding Sonic Reality Oceanway Drums, I don't believe the Sonic
Reality snares are any better than Superior.
To give the Superior snare more attack:
1: make sure you are using all the audio tracks across all the Drums.
2: I believe three of the microphones are purely for the snare, these
all need to be assign to one bus.
4: on the Snare Bus Channel, go to the effects column, add either
Sonitus Compression (Drum Destroyer) or Sonitus Compressor (Vintage DBX).
5: Still on the Snare Bus Channel, put the cursor 1 right of the effect
column so you are on the Compressor and then press your application key (this
will ensure that this next effect that we are about to add is in front of the
compressor.
6: Add sonitus Gate, select (Zero One Default Gate)
This should not only give the snare some body, it should add a little
punch.
Superior Bass drums will not need any compression.
Using HSC, go to Mixer presets.
arrow down to Kick sub menu, now arrow down to muscle and press enter
and this will blow your speakers off the wall.
The guys at Toontrack may have only spent 5 minutes on sampling the
Snares but they spent Days on the Bass Drums.
Hope this helps.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: Len Viljoen
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:49 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] getting more punch on drum tracks
Hi guys. I use superior drummer on my tracks. I need to get more
punch or power or thickness or whatever it's called on my drum tracks.
Especially my snare drum sounds a bit thin. Any ideas on wich plugins I could
use or what form of eq could remedy the problem? Any help will be greatly
appreciated.
Kind regards
Len viljoen
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