[ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks

Take a look at some of the combined presets - they implement some in-line
compression and so on and you might find that you'll get what you want.

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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: 20 January 2010 11:25
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks

Hmm, lets try that again.  Sent that before finishing editing.
 
Steve wrote: Hi Phil,
 
Will be upgrading to Sonar 8.5 in the next few Months.
 
Phil replied: cool!  Talking of which, a couple of other tools that can be
used in Sonar 8.5 to get that punchy drum sound are the Percussion Strip and
believe it or not, the Vocal Strip.  Both are excellent tools!
 
Steve wrote: my remarks about the quality of software snares, is me having a
gripe about Superior and the other software companies.
I apologise if it sounds like I'm aiming my gripe at you as that's not my
intention at all.
 
Phil replied: I never took it that way anyway, grin!
 
Steve wrote: The HSC set you created for Superior is brilliant
 
Phil replied: glad you like it!
 
Steve wrote: and if we are talking accessible drum software, there's nothing
to touch Superior. 
Superior gives more overall control to a producer than if there was a real
drummer in the drum room.
 
My problem isn't just with superior, it's with most software companies that
create drums. 
Most software drums don't seem to have the snares beefy enough for me and
they don't have enough attack. 
It's like they sample a snare then whilst editing they decide to cut off the
sound of the stick striking the snare.
Maybe they don't want the time delay between the stick hitting and the snare
responding, well, that time delay applies to a real snare... 
the Thing I don't understand about Superior, they did an excellent job with
the toms and the kick drums, as both toms and kicks sound really beefy and
show
a lot of attitude.
You can get the snares to show a little attitude but it shouldn't have to
takes several effects to make this happen.
 
Phil replied: it sounds to me like your shooting for a punchy tight
compressed drum sound.  Not surprised that Superior doesn't do this out of
the box. 
In fact, I am glad that it doesn't.  Other software such as Addictive Drums
does do this although, I am personally not a fan of that over compressed
drum
sound.  See isn't that the cool thing?  The drum sound that you are shooting
for, could be completely different than the one I am shooting for.   I love
that though.  Sound is such a subjective thing.  No right or wrong answer to
this.
 
Steve wrote: Moan over, the first one of 2010.

Phil replied: can't thing anything to moan about yet but, I am sure I will
come up with something soon!
 
Regards, Phil Muir
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