[ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks

Hi Omar,

Drum sampled hardware is without doubt tougher sounding with maybe the 
exception of drumcure.

I'm referring too acoustic sound Drums when I mention Drumcure.

Darren Hartland from the list has got very good Dance styled drums on his 
tracks, not sure what he is using, it's very close to top hardware regarding 
the punchy sound. 

I'll be recording some audio tracks this Week, it's good old Rock 'N' Roll, 
I'll put a track on the forum so you can hear Superior hopefully showing signs 
of a punchy beat...

I use today's technology to try and capture the yester years of the 1950's.
Welcome to the twilight Zone? 
Steve W 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Omar Binno 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:32 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks


  Hi Steve,

  Funny you say that about software drums not being as punchy as hardware. A 
friend of mine brought in an Akai mpc4000 to my studio, and I have to say that, 
although I have great drum samples that I run through the sfz, they still don't 
hit hard like they do when you play them through the akai mpc4000. My buddy had 
been telling me that for quite a while, and at first, I thought that with good 
samples, you could emulate the hardware sound, but it's just not the case. Now, 
I'm considering purchasing an akai mpc4000 myself. The only thing stopping me 
is the accessibility question with the unit. Akai software is definitely not 
accessible. So now, the question remains: how accessible is the unit's 
interface.


  Omar Binno

  Website: www.omarbinno.com
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  Skype: obinno1
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steve Wicketts 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:26 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: getting more punch on drum tracks


    Hi Len,

    The thing I've found about software drums is they're not usually as punchy 
as top spec hardware.
    Drumcure (not accessible) is the only Drums software I've come across that 
really does kick hard.

    Regarding Sonic Reality Oceanway Drums, I don't believe the Sonic Reality 
snares are any better than Superior.

    To give the Superior snare more attack:
    1: make sure you are using all the audio tracks across all the Drums.
    2: I believe three of the microphones are purely for the snare, these all 
need to be assign to one bus.
    4: on the Snare Bus Channel, go to the effects column, add either Sonitus 
Compression (Drum Destroyer) or Sonitus Compressor (Vintage DBX).
    5: Still on the Snare Bus Channel, put the cursor 1 right of the effect 
column so you are on the Compressor and then press your application key (this 
will ensure that this next effect that we are about to add is in front of the 
compressor.
    6: Add sonitus Gate, select (Zero One Default Gate)  
    This should not only give the snare some body, it should add a little punch.

    Superior Bass drums will not need any compression. 
    Using HSC, go to Mixer presets.
    arrow down to Kick sub menu, now arrow down to muscle and press enter and 
this will blow your speakers off the wall.

    The guys at Toontrack may have only spent 5 minutes on sampling the Snares 
but they spent Days on the Bass Drums. 
    Hope this helps.

    Steve W 


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Len Viljoen 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:49 AM
      Subject: [ddots-l] getting more punch on drum tracks


      Hi guys. I use superior drummer on my tracks. I need to get more punch or 
power or thickness or whatever it's called on my drum tracks. Especially my 
snare drum sounds a bit thin. Any ideas on wich plugins I could use or what 
form of eq could remedy the problem? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

      Kind regards

      Len viljoen



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