[ddots-l] Re: Sonar: Simple Track Alignment Problem
- From: Rui Vilarinho <ruialby@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:21:39 +0100
Hi Chris,
The track is on 80 bpm.
Vocal on The chorus is off time. . I guess could be the way the vocalist
()artist) see is song.
however, I made some changes, just to check how it fits on the song.
Was the best i can do with this material and in short time. Give a listen !
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16775692/Hip%20Hop%20Alignment%20Problem.rar
best regards,
Rui Vilarinho
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:11 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Sonar: Simple Track Alignment Problem
Hi folks. I'm having a strange situation here that I hope someone can help
with.
The Scenario:
I'm doing a freeby for a local hip hop "artist".
Despite my protesting, he sent me one mp3 containing the instrumental mix,
and a second mp3 containing his vocal with a note saying that the vocal
should start at around 11 seconds in. I know, very professional. But,
it's my job to make it work, so here we go.
This should be fairly straight-forward. I should be able to load them into
Sonar, select the vocal track from start to end, and nudge until things
line up nicely.
Except they don't!
He assures me that the instrumental track he sent me is exactly the one he
rapped over, and you can hear lots of speaker bleed in his vocal track as
proof. And yet, I can't get things to sync up.
Here's a link to a zip file containing the two tracks, plus my attempt at
alignment. You'll notice the first chorus is out of sync, then the first
verse seems really in sync, then things drift out again.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8551100/Hip%20Hop%20Alignment%20Problem.zip
I've checked Sonar's nudge settings and things are set to absolute time,
and a nice small number of ticks, so I can at least get close to the
target.
Is it possible this guy's vocal performance is just all over the place
time wise, or am I missing a setting somewhere in Sonar that would cause a
strange time drift issue like this?
I've never had trouble nudging before, but that has always been limited to
moving tracks a few milliseconds this way or that.
I guess if I need to, I can mute out his breath sounds, then start
highlighting individual phrases and moving those around. That seems like
it could get complicated in a hurry though.
Any other suggestions on how to remedy the situation gratefully received.
I'm off to reread all the tutorial lessons on audio clips in preparation
for what I imagine to be quite the cut and paste operation tomorrow.
Thanks for reading, listening if you have a moment, and any suggestions.
I should warn you that the instrumental mix track is already super
compressed and right up against 0dBFS. You'll need to drop it a fair bit
and bring up the vocal to even here it.
Chris
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