[ddots-l] Re: Sonar: Simple Track Alignment Problem

  • From: Dominique <40493raywonder@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:15:44 -0500

Would you like me to try lining it up? I've got the folder, but omg, that is so like off, it seems like he went in the booth, recorded, but didn't either follow the beat, or doesn't have good rythem, lol.


I can try, but your problem mayb e that you'll need to line it up from where ever it starts, just make sure you don't get in a spot that cut's off audio from his vocles. Or, can you just audio snap it, or audio quontize it?
The timpo is 80.
I tapped the timpo on my end then tryed lining up the vocles,.
On 8/23/2011 12:11 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
Hi folks. I'm having a strange situation here that I hope someone can help with.

The Scenario:
I'm doing a freeby for a local hip hop "artist".
Despite my protesting, he sent me one mp3 containing the instrumental mix, and a second mp3 containing his vocal with a note saying that the vocal should start at around 11 seconds in. I know, very professional. But, it's my job to make it work, so here we go.

This should be fairly straight-forward. I should be able to load them into Sonar, select the vocal track from start to end, and nudge until things line up nicely.

Except they don't!

He assures me that the instrumental track he sent me is exactly the one he rapped over, and you can hear lots of speaker bleed in his vocal track as proof. And yet, I can't get things to sync up.

Here's a link to a zip file containing the two tracks, plus my attempt at alignment. You'll notice the first chorus is out of sync, then the first verse seems really in sync, then things drift out again.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8551100/Hip%20Hop%20Alignment%20Problem.zip

I've checked Sonar's nudge settings and things are set to absolute time, and a nice small number of ticks, so I can at least get close to the target.

Is it possible this guy's vocal performance is just all over the place time wise, or am I missing a setting somewhere in Sonar that would cause a strange time drift issue like this?

I've never had trouble nudging before, but that has always been limited to moving tracks a few milliseconds this way or that.

I guess if I need to, I can mute out his breath sounds, then start highlighting individual phrases and moving those around. That seems like it could get complicated in a hurry though.

Any other suggestions on how to remedy the situation gratefully received. I'm off to reread all the tutorial lessons on audio clips in preparation for what I imagine to be quite the cut and paste operation tomorrow.

Thanks for reading, listening if you have a moment, and any suggestions.

I should warn you that the instrumental mix track is already super compressed and right up against 0dBFS. You'll need to drop it a fair bit and bring up the vocal to even here it.

Chris

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