I'm especially sorry to you Phil! I genuinely got totally confused back there, I just gotta wake up sometime soon! Sorry about the hugs etc! My name was "Rachel" back then... It's good to be back, I think? Laters Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:18 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator >I think the confusion lies in which list we're on. I know full well that >virtually all Dots-L users are blind, as am I. I'm not subscribed to this >"MIDIMAG" list and always thought it was one of those extremely rare lists >that don't cator exclusively to blind people(I know its rare, but there are >sighted folk that use listserves as well) > > In either case, I don't sweat the small stuff like I used to, and getting > offended at little slights is definitely one of the smallest. > > No Problaimo Mike > > BTW: Thanks for the hugs & kisses, but a handshake'll do just fine ;-) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:21 PM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator > > >> Hey Phil! >> >> Don't worry about me man, I'm not offended whatsoever! I just hope I >> didn't offend anybody, I guess I was just a little miffed by what you >> wrote! >> >> Oh! And I've met many stupid peeps on this life's road, and sometimes I >> come to the conclusion that I was probably the first one I really met! >> >> Hugs and kisses >> >> Rachael >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:54 PM >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator >> >> >>> Mike, >>> >>> Don't get offended--I'm just a stupid person. You'll run into lots of >>> us along life's road, so just learn to stand back and let it go. >>> >>> BTW: for all I knew, MIDIMAG wasn't setup for the blind users of MIDI. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:26 AM >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator >>> >>> >>>> Excuse me, but the question: "Are there many blind members on midi >>>> mag?", is >>>> probably the dumbest thing I've heard on this list... >>>> >>>> Don't wanna offend, but for crying out loud... >>>> >>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the MidiMag list originally created >>>> for >>>> the visually impaired musician/programmer, or am I living in some >>>> parallel >>>> universe? >>>> >>>> I got it, this is the "Twilight Zone", and my real name is Rachael... >>>> >>>> bemused grins all around >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:22 PM >>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator >>>> >>>> >>>>> There are a lot of members on Midimag. It is a well run list and has >>>>> some >>>>> of the nicest folks in the world on it. >>>>> >>>>> At 07:27 AM 1/2/2007, Phil Halton wrote: >>>>>>Man! You must be a busy guy--I sent those notes a month ago. Are >>>>>>there >>>>>>many blind users on MIDI MAG? BTW: if you like new features & toys to >>>>>>play with, I've written some CAL programs for Strumming and otherwise >>>>>>manipulating chords to make guitar rhythm simulation faster, easier >>>>>>and >>>>>>more practical. >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew McLaren" >>>>>><mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:01 AM >>>>>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>thanks so much for that, they are really helpful. >>>>>>>yay a new feature to play with. >>>>>>>u should put them up on the midimag site they are really helpful >>>>>>>thanks again >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Matthew McLaren >>>>>>>Post Producer for: >>>>>>>Darker Projects: Audio Theatre >>>>>>>in a Darker Shade >>>>>>>http://www.darkerprojects.com >>>>>>>Colonial Radio Theatre on the air >>>>>>>http://www.colonialradio.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Mail: >>>>>>>mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>MSN: >>>>>>>mr_squigy_head@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Skype: >>>>>>>mattymc2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" >>>>>>><philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>To: "ddots-l" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:35 AM >>>>>>>Subject: [ddots-l] Notes on Arpeggiator >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I was so intrigued with this Cakewalk MIDI effect that I wrote down >>>>>>>>my >>>>>>>>notes on its layout and usage. I hope its OK to post them >>>>>>>>here-maybe >>>>>>>>someone out there will find them useful for using this unscripted & >>>>>>>>essentially inaccessible plug-in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>To date, I've only described the arpeggiator in these notes, but >>>>>>>>I've >>>>>>>>successfully used a few of the other CakewalkFX plug-ins(most >>>>>>>>notably >>>>>>>>the Velocity plugin) and they all seem to be based on the same >>>>>>>>graphical >>>>>>>>faceplate type arrangement. If there is any interest, I can write >>>>>>>>up >>>>>>>>some of the other plug-ins. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>My Notes follow: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Cakewalk MIDI effects--Navigating their interfaces. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>These effects are not accessible via CakeTalking, but you can >>>>>>>>navigate >>>>>>>>them using the jaws cursor. The following sections describe these >>>>>>>>dialog boxes(actually, they're graphical depictions of a hardware >>>>>>>>faceplate), to give an orientation to the layout and position of the >>>>>>>>various parameter knobs and sliders. With this information, you can >>>>>>>>easily use the jaws cursor to move around the faceplate, choosing & >>>>>>>>setting parameters for the desired effect. The Sonar help system >>>>>>>>gives >>>>>>>>detailed information on these MIDI effects, their parameters & their >>>>>>>>usage. This text is only concerned with describing the faceplate >>>>>>>>layout-not the effects usage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Elements common to all faceplates >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Using the Tab & Shift Tab keys, you can access the following: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>1) The Preset combo box, and its associated Save and Delete buttons. >>>>>>>>2) The buttons marked OK, Cancel, Audition and Help. >>>>>>>>3) there'll be a third control you'll land on that will say "TAB". >>>>>>>>This >>>>>>>>is where all the effect parameters are located, but you can't access >>>>>>>>them with the tab key while in PC cursor mode. You'll have to use >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>jaws cursor for them as described in each of the following sections. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>MIDI effect--The arpeggiator. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>As though you were looking at the faceplate of a piece of audio >>>>>>>>hardware: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On the left side, below the title bar is the preset combo box with >>>>>>>>its >>>>>>>>save & delete buttons to its right. Below the preset box, there are >>>>>>>>3 >>>>>>>>controls stacked vertically. The first is the "Units" combo box. >>>>>>>>Below >>>>>>>>that is the "Path" combo box, and below that is the "Play Through" >>>>>>>>checkbox control. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On the far right of the faceplate are the OK, Cancel, Audition and >>>>>>>>Help >>>>>>>>buttons, stacked vertically in that order. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In the middle is the parameters section of the faceplate. There are >>>>>>>>five sliders and a display box. The display box has the title >>>>>>>>"recognized chord" above it, with the two words stacked above each >>>>>>>>other-not on the same line. The Sliders have an edit box atop the >>>>>>>>slider(two of these sliders-the output & chord sliders-have edit >>>>>>>>boxes >>>>>>>>at their bottom as well for specifying a lower limit). Above the >>>>>>>>upper >>>>>>>>edit box for each slider is the sliders(parameters) name. In >>>>>>>>addition, >>>>>>>>above two of these sliders, namely the Output & Chord slider, there >>>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>a button to select them--only one can be selected and each toggles >>>>>>>>on >>>>>>>>and off as you select the other. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From left to right, the faders are named: >>>>>>>>1) Rate >>>>>>>>2) Legato >>>>>>>>3) Swing >>>>>>>>4) Output >>>>>>>>5) Chord >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Navigating the faceplate with the jaws cursor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>By routing the jaws cursor to the PC cursor with insert numpad -, >>>>>>>>then >>>>>>>>pressing PageUp, then Home, you'll be at the upper left corner of >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>dialog atop the title bar. Now, cursoring down and reading the >>>>>>>>faceplate a line at a time with the jaws say line command you'll >>>>>>>>hear: >>>>>>>>1) the preset combo box, then two unlabeled graphics(these are the >>>>>>>>preset save and delete buttons), then the OK button >>>>>>>>2) the Cancel button >>>>>>>>3) Two unlabeled graphics(these are the select buttons for the >>>>>>>>Output & >>>>>>>>Chord sliders mentioned above)-Activated with single left mouse >>>>>>>>click. >>>>>>>>4) The slider titles line. You'll hear "Units:Tab", "RateTab", >>>>>>>>"LegatoTab", "SwingTab", "OutputTab", "ChordTab", "Recognized", then >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>Audition button. Don't get confused by the "tab" after each title >>>>>>>>word-its just a control type and has no meaning here, its just part >>>>>>>>of >>>>>>>>the title word. Also, the word "recognized" is the first word of >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>"recognized Chord" title for the visual display area which is not an >>>>>>>>input parameter. Note that there are six input parameter titles, >>>>>>>>then >>>>>>>>the display area, then the audition button-it'll help to orient you >>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>the faceplate. Note also that the "units" refers not to a slider, >>>>>>>>but >>>>>>>>rather to the "Units" combo box which is one of the three controls >>>>>>>>stacked on the left side of the faceplate as mentioned earlier. >>>>>>>>5) on this line you'll hear the parameter fields themselves. These >>>>>>>>six >>>>>>>>fields correspond to the titles on the line above. By counting in >>>>>>>>from >>>>>>>>the left edge with the jaws cursor, you can access the desired >>>>>>>>parameter. The fields are opened for editting by a double left mouse >>>>>>>>click, and exited with the enter key. Note that the word "chord" >>>>>>>>after >>>>>>>>the six parameter fields is part of the title for the "recognized >>>>>>>>Chord" >>>>>>>>display area mentioned above. >>>>>>>>6) on this line you'll hear "Path:Tab" and the help button. Path is >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>title for the "path" combo box. >>>>>>>>7) First you'll hear an unlabeled graphic, then the path edit combo >>>>>>>>field-activated with left mouse click. I'm not sure yet about the >>>>>>>>unlabeled graphic-it looks like a power button. >>>>>>>>8) this is the line that contains the "Play through" parameter. The >>>>>>>>unlabeled graphic before the words "play through" is the >>>>>>>>checkbox-click >>>>>>>>it to check and uncheck. The default state upon opening the >>>>>>>>arpeggiator >>>>>>>>is unchecked(at least I think so, you'll have to experiment for >>>>>>>>yourself). >>>>>>>>9) Finally, on this last line of the faceplate, you'll hear two >>>>>>>>parameter fields with midi note information in them. These are the >>>>>>>>lower limit parameters for the "Output" & "Chord" parameters. Open >>>>>>>>them >>>>>>>>for editting with double left mouse click and exit with the enter >>>>>>>>key. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Some Operational notes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>1) The two unlabeled graphics mentioned in line 3 above seem to be >>>>>>>>Function, or "Mode" buttons. That is, the arpeggiator seems to work >>>>>>>>either in "output mode" or "Chord mode". Output mode actually >>>>>>>>creates >>>>>>>>the arpeggios and places them in the midi track replacing the >>>>>>>>origional >>>>>>>>data(or not replacing it depending on the Play through checkbox). >>>>>>>>Chord >>>>>>>>mode seems to be a visual thing with chords being displayed in the >>>>>>>>"recognized Chord" display area-so a sighted person can see what the >>>>>>>>chord they've played is actually called, for example C minor9 etc. >>>>>>>>In >>>>>>>>either case, checking one automatically unchecks the other--as to >>>>>>>>which >>>>>>>>is which, you'll have to experiment. Using the audition button, if >>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>hear an arpeggio then you've got the "Output" button checked. If >>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>don't hear an arpeggio, then you've probably got the "Chord" button >>>>>>>>checked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>2) in the edit fields for the Output & Chord sliders (they have two >>>>>>>>each >>>>>>>>one at the top and one at the bottom), type the number of the note >>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>>the field will automatically update the note name--for example type >>>>>>>>48 >>>>>>>>and the field will say "48 C 4". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>3) You can quickly get to the audition button by cursoring up or >>>>>>>>down >>>>>>>>til you hear "Units". 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