No, this is Brian. And yes, you are certainly posting and responding to messages on the Dancing Dots e-mail list. Just look at the headers below. It says that you sent this message to dots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Christer Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:55 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator Hey Bill! You got me really confused here? Is this not the midimag list? If not, how did I get messages appearing in my in-box, when I'm not subscribed to the dancing dots list? Sorry, this is doing my head in... Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Smart" <BSmart@xxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator > Uh, Mike, buddy, you're posting to the Dancing Dots list. <smile> > > See, its perfectly reasonable that someone would hear about the MIDI-mag > list, on the Dancing Dots list, and not know immediately from the name > MIDI-mag, that its full of blind people. > > No worries, though. I've accidentally replied to the wrong place before. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of Mike Christer > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:13 PM > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator > > Hey Sandy! > > This is the midimag list, isn't it? > > Or are you playing with me, or perhaps my name is really Rachael, and I'm > 17 > feet tall? > > Mike----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:41 PM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator > > >> Since this is the Dancing Dots list, there may be some who have just come >> to hear of Midimag, and they may not realize it is a list for the >> visually > >> impaired. It's a stretch, I know, but I didn't always know about >> Midimag. > >> Did you? >> >> At 10:26 AM 1/3/2007, Mike Christer wrote: >>>Excuse me, but the question: "Are there many blind members on midi mag?", >>>is >>>probably the dumbest thing I've heard on this list... >>> >>>Don't wanna offend, but for crying out loud... >>> >>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the MidiMag list originally created >>>for >>>the visually impaired musician/programmer, or am I living in some >>>parallel >>>universe? >>> >>>I got it, this is the "Twilight Zone", and my real name is Rachael... >>> >>>bemused grins all around >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:22 PM >>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator >>> >>> >>> > There are a lot of members on Midimag. It is a well run list and has >>> > some >>> > of the nicest folks in the world on it. >>> > >>> > At 07:27 AM 1/2/2007, Phil Halton wrote: >>> >>Man! You must be a busy guy--I sent those notes a month ago. Are >>> >>there >>> >>many blind users on MIDI MAG? BTW: if you like new features & toys to >>> >>play with, I've written some CAL programs for Strumming and otherwise >>> >>manipulating chords to make guitar rhythm simulation faster, easier >>> >>and >>> >>more practical. >>> >> >>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew McLaren" >>> >><mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:01 AM >>> >>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Notes on Arpeggiator >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>thanks so much for that, they are really helpful. >>> >>>yay a new feature to play with. >>> >>>u should put them up on the midimag site they are really helpful >>> >>>thanks again >>> >>> >>> >>>Matthew McLaren >>> >>>Post Producer for: >>> >>>Darker Projects: Audio Theatre >>> >>>in a Darker Shade >>> >>>http://www.darkerprojects.com >>> >>>Colonial Radio Theatre on the air >>> >>>http://www.colonialradio.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>>Mail: >>> >>>mattymc2@xxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>MSN: >>> >>>mr_squigy_head@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>Skype: >>> >>>mattymc2 >>> >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" >>> >>><philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>To: "ddots-l" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:35 AM >>> >>>Subject: [ddots-l] Notes on Arpeggiator >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I was so intrigued with this Cakewalk MIDI effect that I wrote down >>> >>>>my >>> >>>>notes on its layout and usage. I hope its OK to post them >>> >>>>here-maybe >>> >>>>someone out there will find them useful for using this unscripted & >>> >>>>essentially inaccessible plug-in. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>To date, I've only described the arpeggiator in these notes, but >>> >>>>I've >>> >>>>successfully used a few of the other CakewalkFX plug-ins(most >>> >>>>notably >>> >>>>the Velocity plugin) and they all seem to be based on the same >>> >>>>graphical >>> >>>>faceplate type arrangement. If there is any interest, I can write >>> >>>>up >>> >>>>some of the other plug-ins. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>My Notes follow: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>Cakewalk MIDI effects--Navigating their interfaces. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>These effects are not accessible via CakeTalking, but you can >>> >>>>navigate >>> >>>>them using the jaws cursor. The following sections describe these >>> >>>>dialog boxes(actually, they're graphical depictions of a hardware >>> >>>>faceplate), to give an orientation to the layout and position of the >>> >>>>various parameter knobs and sliders. With this information, you can >>> >>>>easily use the jaws cursor to move around the faceplate, choosing & >>> >>>>setting parameters for the desired effect. The Sonar help system >>> >>>>gives >>> >>>>detailed information on these MIDI effects, their parameters & their >>> >>>>usage. This text is only concerned with describing the faceplate >>> >>>>layout-not the effects usage. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>Elements common to all faceplates >>> >>>> >>> >>>>Using the Tab & Shift Tab keys, you can access the following: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>1) The Preset combo box, and its associated Save and Delete buttons. >>> >>>>2) The buttons marked OK, Cancel, Audition and Help. >>> >>>>3) there'll be a third control you'll land on that will say "TAB". >>> >>>>This >>> >>>>is where all the effect parameters are located, but you can't access >>> >>>>them with the tab key while in PC cursor mode. You'll have to use >>> >>>>the >>> >>>>jaws cursor for them as described in each of the following sections. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>MIDI effect--The arpeggiator. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>As though you were looking at the faceplate of a piece of audio >>> >>>>hardware: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>On the left side, below the title bar is the preset combo box with >>> >>>>its >>> >>>>save & delete buttons to its right. Below the preset box, there are >>> >>>>3 >>> >>>>controls stacked vertically. The first is the "Units" combo box. >>> >>>>Below >>> >>>>that is the "Path" combo box, and below that is the "Play Through" >>> >>>>checkbox control. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>On the far right of the faceplate are the OK, Cancel, Audition and >>> >>>>Help >>> >>>>buttons, stacked vertically in that order. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>In the middle is the parameters section of the faceplate. There are >>> >>>>five sliders and a display box. The display box has the title >>> >>>>"recognized chord" above it, with the two words stacked above each >>> >>>>other-not on the same line. The Sliders have an edit box atop the >>> >>>>slider(two of these sliders-the output & chord sliders-have edit >>> >>>>boxes >>> >>>>at their bottom as well for specifying a lower limit). Above the >>> >>>>upper >>> >>>>edit box for each slider is the sliders(parameters) name. In >>> >>>>addition, >>> >>>>above two of these sliders, namely the Output & Chord slider, there >>> >>>>is >>> >>>>a button to select them--only one can be selected and each toggles >>> >>>>on >>> >>>>and off as you select the other. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> From left to right, the faders are named: >>> >>>>1) Rate >>> >>>>2) Legato >>> >>>>3) Swing >>> >>>>4) Output >>> >>>>5) Chord >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>Navigating the faceplate with the jaws cursor >>> >>>> >>> >>>>By routing the jaws cursor to the PC cursor with insert numpad -, >>> >>>>then >>> >>>>pressing PageUp, then Home, you'll be at the upper left corner of >>> >>>>the >>> >>>>dialog atop the title bar. Now, cursoring down and reading the >>> >>>>faceplate a line at a time with the jaws say line command you'll >>> >>>>hear: >>> >>>>1) the preset combo box, then two unlabeled graphics(these are the >>> >>>>preset save and delete buttons), then the OK button >>> >>>>2) the Cancel button >>> >>>>3) Two unlabeled graphics(these are the select buttons for the >>> >>>>Output > >>> >>>>& >>> >>>>Chord sliders mentioned above)-Activated with single left mouse >>> >>>>click. >>> >>>>4) The slider titles line. You'll hear "Units:Tab", "RateTab", >>> >>>>"LegatoTab", "SwingTab", "OutputTab", "ChordTab", "Recognized", then >>> >>>>the >>> >>>>Audition button. Don't get confused by the "tab" after each title >>> >>>>word-its just a control type and has no meaning here, its just part >>> >>>>of >>> >>>>the title word. Also, the word "recognized" is the first word of >>> >>>>the >>> >>>>"recognized Chord" title for the visual display area which is not an >>> >>>>input parameter. Note that there are six input parameter titles, >>> >>>>then >>> >>>>the display area, then the audition button-it'll help to orient you >>> >>>>to >>> >>>>the faceplate. Note also that the "units" refers not to a slider, >>> >>>>but >>> >>>>rather to the "Units" combo box which is one of the three controls >>> >>>>stacked on the left side of the faceplate as mentioned earlier. >>> >>>>5) on this line you'll hear the parameter fields themselves. These >>> >>>>six >>> >>>>fields correspond to the titles on the line above. By counting in >>> >>>>from >>> >>>>the left edge with the jaws cursor, you can access the desired >>> >>>>parameter. The fields are opened for editting by a double left mouse >>> >>>>click, and exited with the enter key. Note that the word "chord" >>> >>>>after >>> >>>>the six parameter fields is part of the title for the "recognized >>> >>>>Chord" >>> >>>>display area mentioned above. >>> >>>>6) on this line you'll hear "Path:Tab" and the help button. Path is >>> >>>>the >>> >>>>title for the "path" combo box. >>> >>>>7) First you'll hear an unlabeled graphic, then the path edit combo >>> >>>>field-activated with left mouse click. I'm not sure yet about the >>> >>>>unlabeled graphic-it looks like a power button. >>> >>>>8) this is the line that contains the "Play through" parameter. The >>> >>>>unlabeled graphic before the words "play through" is the >>> >>>>checkbox-click >>> >>>>it to check and uncheck. The default state upon opening the >>> >>>>arpeggiator >>> >>>>is unchecked(at least I think so, you'll have to experiment for >>> >>>>yourself). >>> >>>>9) Finally, on this last line of the faceplate, you'll hear two >>> >>>>parameter fields with midi note information in them. These are the >>> >>>>lower limit parameters for the "Output" & "Chord" parameters. Open >>> >>>>them >>> >>>>for editting with double left mouse click and exit with the enter >>> >>>>key. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>Some Operational notes >>> >>>> >>> >>>>1) The two unlabeled graphics mentioned in line 3 above seem to be >>> >>>>Function, or "Mode" buttons. That is, the arpeggiator seems to work >>> >>>>either in "output mode" or "Chord mode". Output mode actually >>> >>>>creates >>> >>>>the arpeggios and places them in the midi track replacing the >>> >>>>origional >>> >>>>data(or not replacing it depending on the Play through checkbox). >>> >>>>Chord >>> >>>>mode seems to be a visual thing with chords being displayed in the >>> >>>>"recognized Chord" display area-so a sighted person can see what the >>> >>>>chord they've played is actually called, for example C minor9 etc. >>> >>>>In >>> >>>>either case, checking one automatically unchecks the other--as to >>> >>>>which >>> >>>>is which, you'll have to experiment. Using the audition button, if >>> >>>>you >>> >>>>hear an arpeggio then you've got the "Output" button checked. If >>> >>>>you >>> >>>>don't hear an arpeggio, then you've probably got the "Chord" button >>> >>>>checked. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>2) in the edit fields for the Output & Chord sliders (they have two >>> >>>>each >>> >>>>one at the top and one at the bottom), type the number of the note >>> >>>>and >>> >>>>the field will automatically update the note name--for example type >>> >>>>48 >>> >>>>and the field will say "48 C 4". >>> >>>> >>> >>>>3) You can quickly get to the audition button by cursoring up or >>> >>>>down >>> >>>>til you hear "Units". 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