Under Audioat the top of the Procews menu, there's fade/envelope. If you have aregion selected, it doesn't have to be a clip, you can apply one of the premade envelopes to the selected region. Now, this is all the way in or all the way out. But it's something. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren H Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:43 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Automation, possible bug? Hi Kevin. The only option for fading in the process menu is fade selected clips. It's not a clip, it's a track. Automation would be much simpler if I could just work it out, lol. Cheers Darren If you like electronic, ambient, new age or atmospheric music, become a fan of The Karmistry Project on Facebook... http://facebook.karmistryproject.com You can also follow Karmistry Media on Twitter... http://www.twitter.com/Karmistrymedia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:32 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Automation, possible bug? Didn't you try inserting a fadeout from the process menu? -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren H Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 5:46 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Automation, possible bug? Hi Phil. How would setting two snapshots for a start and finish apply to a gradual fade out of a track. I would've though I'd need to have the track playing and record the automation in realtime Cheers Darren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Automation, possible bug? > Darren. Use Sonar's keystrokes for this instead. I have pasted how > to record automation on a send however, the same principal can be > applied to volume, pan etc. > > From my Sonar FAQ on: > > http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/sonarfaq.html > > Recording Automation > > Q: how do I record an automation snapshot in Sonar? > A: You can do this in two ways. If you wish to arm a single control > for automation, when focused over it, press the applications key, > followed by the letter W. That will arm the control in question. If > you wish to arm all controls on a track for automation then, arrow > over to the automation write button and press the enter key. > > > Q: I would like to record automation on a track so that the affect > will be enabled on part of a track. How can I do this? > A: patch the affect into a track. Then, assign a send to it. Then, Go > to the > start of your project and turn the volume of the send right down to. inf. > Now record an automation snapshot within focussed over the sends volume. > The keystrokes for this are, the applications key, followed by the letter > S. > Then, go to where you want to hear the affect start and stop playback > where > you wish the affect to come in then, record an automation snapshot. Then, > resume playback and go to where you want the affect to disappear again, > stop > playback and record another automation snapshot. Now unarm all controls > for > automation on the track by locating the automation write button and > turning > it off with the enter key. > > > > > Regards, Phil Muir > Accessibility Training > Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 > UK +44-1747-821-794 > Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 > E-mail: > info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > URL: > http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of Darren H > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:05 AM > To: Dancing Dots List > Subject: [ddots-l] Automation, possible bug? > > Hi folks. > > I'm using Sonar 8.5 with the apprpraite CakeTalking scripts. > > I'm trying to automate a fade out of a track, here what I do. > > go to the point where I want to start the fade out and enable > automation record on. > > shift double v to the volume. > > Press control R. > > I'm then told that an automation snapshot was taken. > > But the help says that it's control and 2 r's is the snapshot commend. > > When I press control and 2 R's, I'm told that this keystroke on takes > a max > of 2 press. > > What's going on with this? > > Cheers > Darren > > If you like electronic, ambient, new age or atmospheric music, become > a fan > of The Karmistry Project on Facebook... > http://facebook.karmistryproject.com > > You can also follow Karmistry Media on Twitter... > http://www.twitter.com/Karmistrymedia > > PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! > To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe > For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately > following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq > > PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! > To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe > For other list commands such as vacation mode, > click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or > send a message, to > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > and in the Subject line type > faq > PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! 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