On 9/20/2011 8:05 AM, TR Shaw wrote:
You don't have analyze-spam in eims or assp (except set in its special place in the gui) as a valid user do you?
No, I don't have it anywhere except in the GUI in the "Email Interface" settings.
Does it make sense that I could send mail as an authenticated user to a non-local domain and ASSP would still accept it (or is that the intended behavior)?
On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:39 AM, aklist wrote:On 9/20/2011 3:39 AM, TR Shaw wrote:Then yes.Something doesn't make sense to me...in my last test I took a new domain that did not have an MX record pointing to the server at all. I then added an A record "assp" pointing to the server. I then sent mail from a local account to "analyze-spam" at this new domain, and it ended up looping back and forth between EIMS and ASSP until it bounced. It seems like ASSP shouldn't have accepted this mail at all because it was a non-local domain. It's almost as if ASSP is overriding all the checks it might perform and passes the mail blindly to EIMS. In my Validate Recipients I have: "regect unknown domains" -- checked "use entries without leading'@' as domains -- checked "do not validate local addressses if in NoProcessing list" -- UN-checked In the log it shows the mail as coming from my IP initially, then looping until it bounces: Connected: 76.126.yyy.yyy:57744 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:587 (listenPort2) -> 127.0.0.1:1587; Sep-20-11 07:21:40 31652-05690 [Local] 76.126.yyy.yyy<xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> to: analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- authenticated -- [Fwd: 企业.绩效.考核.与薪酬.体系.设计-- 青岛弗莱柯斯阀 门有限公司] -> notspam/31652-05690.eml; Sep-20-11 07:21:40 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:55401 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Sep-20-11 07:21:40 Disconnected: 76.126.yyy.yyy; Sep-20-11 07:21:40 31652-05691 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> to: analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: 企业.绩效.考核.与薪酬.体系.设 计-- 青岛弗莱柯斯阀门有限公司] -> notspam/31652-05691.eml; Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:55427 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Sep-20-11 07:21:41 31652-05704 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<akagan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> to: analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: 企业.绩效.考核.与薪酬.体系. 设计-- 青岛弗莱柯斯阀门有限公司] -> notspam/31652-05704.eml; The IP "216.218.xxx.xxx" is the IP of the ASSP/EIMS server, but initially I'm sending from a completely different IP (76.126.yyy.yyy) that is not in the "acceptAllMail" list. So, it must be something other than "acceptAllMail" that's the problem...is there another setting somewhere that's bypassing ASSP when the sender's email address is in the validate recipients --> localusers list? TIA, AndrewOn Sep 19, 2011, at 10:04 PM, aklist wrote:On 9/19/2011 6:12 PM, TR Shaw wrote:probably not. is the file linked in to assp?Yes, sorry for not being clear...in ASSP's web-settings, the "localdomains.txt" file is specified under "local domains"I am off to see warehouse 13. I'll respond in the am On Sep 19, 2011, at 8:22 PM, aklist wrote:On 9/19/2011 4:16 PM, TR Shaw wrote:I don't know what to tell you since I can't see your config. The key is to make the assp email control go to assp and not to eims. I don't think its a problem of hosting both on the same machine since there is effectively no difference than my config. It has to be something in your config in DNS or ASSP. Since you have your own DNS and since I assume EIMS queries your own DNS why not try a bs domain such as aks_assp.com and put it in your host list.? Just a thought. TomTom, one more piece of the puzzle...I have a "localdomains" file in ASSP that's populated with the same domains listed in the "localusers". Do I need the "localdomains" file if I'm putting the bare domains in "localusers"?On Sep 19, 2011, at 7:09 PM, aklist wrote:On 9/19/2011 3:49 PM, TR Shaw wrote:Ah. I think so because without the @ it will pattern match on searchpartner.pro just as easily as assp.searchpartner.pro.Hmmm...I went ahead and added all the email addresses into localusers.txt for that domain, restarted ASSP, but I'm still getting the mail-loop error. I just verified that "searchpartner.pro" is not in localusers.txt except with "user@" in front of it, but still looping :(On Sep 19, 2011, at 6:45 PM, aklist wrote:On 9/19/2011 3:17 PM, TR Shaw wrote:You need to work on why assp thinks it should forward the mail to port 125. That's your problem. Do you have assp.searchpartner.pro set as a loacal domain to forward to EIMS?Thanks for bearing with me on this, Tom. I appreciate your help! I have all my local domains set in ASSP's localusers.txt. Just the domains, with "use entries without leading '@' as domains" checked. I have "searchpartner.pro" there, but not "assp.searchpartner.pro" Is there any setting in ASSP that would automatically treat subdomains as part of the primary domain?On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:52 PM, aklist wrote:On 9/19/2011 1:39 PM, TR Shaw wrote:analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx is setup in ASSP as the email from which to analyze spam?This is what happens in ASSP's log: Sep-19-11 14:49:55 Connected: xxx.xxx.xxx.130:62681 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.130:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Sep-19-11 14:49:55 31646-50341 [Local] xxx.xxx.xxx.130<me@xxxxxx> to: report-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- xxx.xxx.xxx.130 in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Rejected ACH transfer] -> notspam/31646-50341.eml; Sep-19-11 14:49:55 Disconnected: xxx.xxx.xxx.130; Sep-19-11 14:49:55 Connected: xxx.xxx.xxx.130:62683 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.130:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Sep-19-11 14:49:55 31646-50342 [Local] xxx.xxx.xxx.130<me@xxxxxx> to: report-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- xxx.xxx.xxx.130 in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Rejected ACH transfer] -> notspam/31646-50342.eml; which repeats until the "oversized header" occurs.On Sep 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, aklist wrote:On 9/19/2011 1:23 PM, TR Shaw wrote:Since you are on a single machine you needsearchpartner.pro to have an MX record it does: Non-authoritative answer: searchpartner.pro MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.searchpartner. pro mail.searchpartner.pro internet address = xxx.xxx.xxx.130 and assp.searchpartner.pro an A record it does: Non-authoritative answer: Name: assp.searchpartner.pro Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.130 AND assp.searchpartner.pro cannot be in EIMS alias list. it is not, the only thing in the EIMS alias list is "searchpartner.pro"On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:42 PM, aklist wrote:On 9/19/2011 11:41 AM, TR Shaw wrote:AK assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx must point to assp.mail.enigmedia.com and eima must not know about assp.mail.enigmedia.com or assp.enigmedia.com is its domain alias assp is on assp.oitc.com eims is on mail.oitc.com mail sent to analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx will be analyzed and all the email I/F works.OK, I tried setting it up again: assp is on assp.searchpartner.pro:25 eims is on mail.searchpartner.pro:125 attempting to send to analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx returns: The following message could not be delivered to analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx at host assp.searchpartner.pro (xxx.xxx.xxx.130) because the message content was rejected. 554 5.7.1 possible mailloop - oversized header (10014) Is it an issue with ASSP and EIMS running on the same server?Tom On Sep 19, 2011, at 1:37 PM, aklist wrote:On 8/7/2011 6:46 AM, aklist wrote:On 8/6/2011 6:59 PM, TR Shaw wrote:Just create a host record with and A.Tom, I'm coming back to this one more time, trying to grok what I'm doing wrong. Eims is running with a default domain of mail.enigmedia.com ASSP is running as assp.mail.enigmedia.com I created an A record in enigmedia.com DNS called "assp.enigmedia.com" that points to the ip of the mailserver. If I try to forward spam to "assp.enigmedia.com" I get an error: The following message could not be delivered to assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx because the domain assp.enigmedia.com does not exist. I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but not sure what?On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:05 PM, aklist wrote:On 8/6/2011 4:40 PM, TR Shaw wrote:No mx alias. Just the A. Mail can go to an A.Meh...this domain is managed by NetSol's DNS...all I can seem to do is create a subdomain MX record, not an A record. I'll have to switch the DNS to my own servers and try again.OK, I'm not sure what's wrong at this point. I set up a new sub domain with no MX records and just a default A record pointing to the server (in DNS). The subdomain does not exist in EIMS, but it does exist in the "localAddresses_flat" file. That didn't work, so I removed it from the localAddresses_flat file as well in ASSP. I also removed the "defaultlocalhost" entry for the default local domain (had been "mail.mydomain.com") in ASSP. ASSP is still routing mail for "assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" to EIMS. Not sure if maybe the EIMS server is caching something DNS related? I'm still getting a mailloop error...thanks for any insights. Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 76.126.148.230:49651 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:587 (listenPort2) -> 127.0.0.1:1587; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00000 [Local] 76.126.148.230<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- authenticated -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00000.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49399 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00001 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00001.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 76.126.148.230; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00003 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00003.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00005 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00005.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49401 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00006 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00006.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00008 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00008.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00010 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00010.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49403 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00011 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00011.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00013 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00013.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00015 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00015.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00017 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00017.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49405 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00018 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00018.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00020 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00020.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00022 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00022.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49407 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00023 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00023.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49409 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00024 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00024.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00026 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00026.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00028 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00028.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49411 -> 216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) -> 127.0.0.1:125; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00029 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00029.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00031 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] -> notspam/31272-00031.eml; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00033 [OversizedHeader] 216.218.xxx.xxx <me@xxxxxxxxxx> to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Possible Mailloop: Headerlength (10042)> 10000; Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx; Circle The Wagons manage: //www.freelists.org/list/ctw post: mailto:ctw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx unsubscribe: mailto:ctw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe search: //www.freelists.org/archives/ctw faq: //www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faqCircle The Wagons manage: //www.freelists.org/list/ctw post: mailto:ctw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx unsubscribe: mailto:ctw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe search: //www.freelists.org/archives/ctw faq: //www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faqCircle The Wagons manage: //www.freelists.org/list/ctw post: mailto:ctw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx unsubscribe: mailto:ctw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe search: //www.freelists.org/archives/ctw faq: //www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faq
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