[ctw] Re: ASSP: using "assp-spam" address

  • From: aklist <aklist_eims@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ctw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:22:06 -0700

On 9/19/2011 4:16 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
I don't know what to tell you since I can't see your config. The key is to make 
the assp email control go to assp and not to eims. I don't think its a problem 
of hosting both on the same machine since there is effectively no difference 
than my config. It has to be something in your config in DNS or ASSP.  Since 
you have your own DNS and since I assume EIMS queries your own DNS why not try 
a bs domain such as aks_assp.com and put it in your host list.? Just a thought.

Tom

Tom, one more piece of the puzzle...I have a "localdomains" file in ASSP that's populated with the same domains listed in the "localusers".

Do I need the "localdomains" file if I'm putting the bare domains in "localusers"?


On Sep 19, 2011, at 7:09 PM, aklist wrote:

On 9/19/2011 3:49 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
Ah. I think so because without the @ it will pattern match on searchpartner.pro 
just as easily as assp.searchpartner.pro.

Hmmm...I went ahead and added all the email addresses into localusers.txt for 
that domain, restarted ASSP, but I'm still getting the mail-loop error.

I just verified that "searchpartner.pro" is not in localusers.txt except with 
"user@" in front of it, but still looping :(


On Sep 19, 2011, at 6:45 PM, aklist wrote:

On 9/19/2011 3:17 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
You need to work on why assp thinks it should forward the mail to port 125. 
That's your problem. Do you have assp.searchpartner.pro set as a loacal domain 
to forward to EIMS?

Thanks for bearing with me on this, Tom. I appreciate your help!

I have all my local domains set in ASSP's localusers.txt. Just the domains, with 
"use entries without leading '@' as domains" checked.

I have "searchpartner.pro" there, but not "assp.searchpartner.pro"

Is there any setting in ASSP that would automatically treat subdomains as part 
of the primary domain?


On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:52 PM, aklist wrote:

On 9/19/2011 1:39 PM, TR Shaw wrote:


analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx is setup in ASSP as the email from which to 
analyze spam?

This is what happens in ASSP's log:

Sep-19-11 14:49:55 Connected: xxx.xxx.xxx.130:62681 ->    xxx.xxx.xxx.130:25 
(listenPort) ->    127.0.0.1:125;
Sep-19-11 14:49:55 31646-50341 [Local] xxx.xxx.xxx.130<me@xxxxxx>    to: 
report-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- xxx.xxx.xxx.130 in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: 
Rejected ACH transfer] ->    notspam/31646-50341.eml;
Sep-19-11 14:49:55 Disconnected: xxx.xxx.xxx.130;
Sep-19-11 14:49:55 Connected: xxx.xxx.xxx.130:62683 ->    xxx.xxx.xxx.130:25 
(listenPort) ->    127.0.0.1:125;
Sep-19-11 14:49:55 31646-50342 [Local] xxx.xxx.xxx.130<me@xxxxxx>    to: 
report-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- xxx.xxx.xxx.130 in acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: 
Rejected ACH transfer] ->    notspam/31646-50342.eml;

which repeats until the "oversized header" occurs.



On Sep 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, aklist wrote:

On 9/19/2011 1:23 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
Since you are on a single machine you need

searchpartner.pro to have an MX record

it does:
        
Non-authoritative answer:
searchpartner.pro       MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.searchpartner.
pro

mail.searchpartner.pro  internet address = xxx.xxx.xxx.130

and assp.searchpartner.pro an A record
        
it does:

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    assp.searchpartner.pro
Address:  xxx.xxx.xxx.130

AND assp.searchpartner.pro cannot be in EIMS alias list.
        
it is not, the only thing in the EIMS alias list is "searchpartner.pro"



On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:42 PM, aklist wrote:

On 9/19/2011 11:41 AM, TR Shaw wrote:
AK

assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx must point to assp.mail.enigmedia.com and eima 
must not know about assp.mail.enigmedia.com or assp.enigmedia.com is its domain 
alias

assp is on assp.oitc.com
eims is on mail.oitc.com
mail sent to analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx will be analyzed and all the email I/F 
works.

OK, I tried setting it up again:

assp is on assp.searchpartner.pro:25
eims is on mail.searchpartner.pro:125

attempting to send to analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx returns:

The following message could not be delivered to
analyze-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx at host assp.searchpartner.pro
(xxx.xxx.xxx.130) because the message content was rejected.
554 5.7.1 possible mailloop - oversized header (10014)

Is it an issue with ASSP and EIMS running on the same server?


Tom

On Sep 19, 2011, at 1:37 PM, aklist wrote:

On 8/7/2011 6:46 AM, aklist wrote:
On 8/6/2011 6:59 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
Just create a host record with and A.

Tom, I'm coming back to this one more time, trying to grok what I'm doing wrong.

Eims is running with a default domain of mail.enigmedia.com
ASSP is running as assp.mail.enigmedia.com

I created an A record in enigmedia.com DNS called "assp.enigmedia.com" that points to the 
ip of the mailserver. If I try to forward spam to "assp.enigmedia.com" I get an error:

The following message could not be delivered to assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
because the domain assp.enigmedia.com does not exist.

I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but not sure what?



On Aug 6, 2011, at 8:05 PM, aklist wrote:

On 8/6/2011 4:40 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
No mx alias. Just the A. Mail can go to an A.

Meh...this domain is managed by NetSol's DNS...all I can seem to do
is create a subdomain MX record, not an A record. I'll have to switch
the DNS to my own servers and try again.

OK, I'm not sure what's wrong at this point.

I set up a new sub domain with no MX records and just a default A record
pointing to the server (in DNS).

The subdomain does not exist in EIMS, but it does exist in the
"localAddresses_flat" file. That didn't work, so I removed it from the
localAddresses_flat file as well in ASSP.

I also removed the "defaultlocalhost" entry for the default local domain
(had been "mail.mydomain.com") in ASSP.

ASSP is still routing mail for "assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" to EIMS.

Not sure if maybe the EIMS server is caching something DNS related? I'm
still getting a mailloop error...thanks for any insights.

Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 76.126.148.230:49651 ->
216.218.xxx.xxx:587 (listenPort2) ->       127.0.0.1:1587;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00000 [Local] 76.126.148.230<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- authenticated -- [Fwd:
Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00000.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49399 ->
216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) ->       127.0.0.1:125;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00001 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00001.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 76.126.148.230;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00003 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00003.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00005 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00005.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49401 ->
216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) ->       127.0.0.1:125;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00006 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00006.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00008 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00008.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00010 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00010.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49403 ->
216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) ->       127.0.0.1:125;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00011 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00011.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00013 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00013.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00015 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00015.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00017 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00017.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49405 ->
216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) ->       127.0.0.1:125;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00018 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00018.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00020 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00020.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00022 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00022.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49407 ->
216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) ->       127.0.0.1:125;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00023 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00023.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49409 ->
216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) ->       127.0.0.1:125;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00024 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00024.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00026 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00026.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00028 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00028.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Connected: 216.218.xxx.xxx:49411 ->
216.218.xxx.xxx:25 (listenPort) ->       127.0.0.1:125;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00029 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00029.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00031 [Local] 216.218.xxx.xxx<me@xxxxxxxxxx>
to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx local -- 216.218.xxx.xxx in
acceptAllMail -- [Fwd: Re:Hello] ->       notspam/31272-00031.eml;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 31272-00033 [OversizedHeader] 216.218.xxx.xxx
<me@xxxxxxxxxx>       to: assp-spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Possible Mailloop:
Headerlength (10042)>       10000;
Aug-07-11 06:37:58 Disconnected: 216.218.xxx.xxx;
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