In a message dated 4/29/04 9:36:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jackhand@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I think it is a good idea. When I was working in the area, it was a royal pain that, before you could place your towel on the beach, you first had to clear the area of used butts. I have a warped thought process but when I look at this a question comes to mind. Wouldn't it be easier, simpler, faster to inforce the Anti-Litter laws than to legislate a smoking ban ? A person with a camera and a long lens could make a fortune with a $500 fine for littering and that would solve all the littering problem, not just the cigarette butt part of it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't. -- Pete Seeger"