When I'm validating and the dots run over to the next line I use a return to send a word and the dots to the next line. --- boomerdad <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Okay, disregard my clarification earlier. I hadn't > seen this message, which > clarifies and answers my question. > > If it's a question of preference, I prefer the dots > together, because it > elliminates the problem of having dots spill over > onto another line (dots > together after a period, to use your example for > comparison, would be > "period space dot dot dot space"). And, as weird as > it may sound, when the > dots occur as an end to dialogue, I prefer it all > run together. "C'mon, > Smitty, do you really think..." as opposed to "do > you really think. . ." > <Shrug> I didn't know there was such a lack of hard > and fast rules in this > situation. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:24 AM > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: ellipses > > > > Well, when I put in true elipses, I do put the > spaces > > between the dots, both because this is the way I > > learned to do it in school and because it's the > way > > Project Gutenberg says to do it, and I was doing > work > > for them before I got so involved with bookshare. > And, > > when the ellipse comes after a period, it would be > > period space dot space dot space dot space. > > > > Peter, Jesse, Gustavo, et al -- does bookshare > have a > > preference? Or do you blind readers have a > preference? > > I'm happy to change if that's annoying to braille > > readers or listeners. > > > > Cindy > > --- "Norma A. Boge-Conyers" <naboge@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > I think the ellipses should be considered as a > mark > > > of punctuation, i.e. it > > > should not be separated from the word preceding > it. > > > So the correct form, > > > IMHO, would be John... not John ... HTH > > > > > > > > > At 03:24 AM 9/28/2004, you wrote: > > > >Okay, I don't know if they're called elipses or > > > not--elipses may be > > > >referring to journalistic dots to signify words > > > being removed from quoted > > > >text or dialogue. What I'm talking about is in > > > fiction, when there are > > > >dots in the narrative. I ask one of you > sighted > > > folk here to help me > > > >settle an issue once and for all that's been > > > bugging me for quite some > > > >time. Here's a fake paragraph illustrating > what > > > I'm talking about: > > > > > > > >John walked into the bar ... > > > > > > > >... and found himself staring into the eyes of > his > > > beloved. > > > > > > > >"John..." she breathed. > > > > > > > >"Susan...?" he responded. > > > > > > > >"... You're ... looking well," she stammered. > > > > > > > > > > > >Anyway, you get the idea. I'm overusing them, > just > > > to make sure there's > > > >no doubt about what I'm referring to. > > > > > > > >My question is this: I don't know how to fix > these > > > dots. Many times, > > > >instead of being clumped together there are > spaces > > > between them. (instead > > > >of "..." you get ". . ."). Sometimes, when > someone > > > is speaking, there's a > > > >space between the last word of dialogue > ("John..." > > > instead of "John ..."), > > > >and when the dots occur at the beginning or end > of > > > a narrative paragraph, > > > >I never know whether to put spaces between the > last > > > word and the dots or > > > >not, or, as the case may be, the first word of > the > > > new paragraph and its > > > >dots. OCR isn't consistent as to how to deal > with > > > this, and I'd just like > > > >to know how to fix them when they're wrongly > > > recognized. Yes, it's petty, > > > >and doesn't interfere with legibility ... but > I'm a > > > perfectionist in my > > > >own editing, and would like to know this for my > own > > > writing as well; I may > > > >not be putting spaces where there should be > spaces > > > and such. What's the > > > >"right" way to use these? How's it done in > print > > > books? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com