[bookshare-discuss] Re: ellipses
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:11:22 -0700 (PDT)
When I'm validating and the dots run over to the next
line I use a return to send a word and the dots to the
next line.
--- boomerdad <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Okay, disregard my clarification earlier. I hadn't
> seen this message, which
> clarifies and answers my question.
>
> If it's a question of preference, I prefer the dots
> together, because it
> elliminates the problem of having dots spill over
> onto another line (dots
> together after a period, to use your example for
> comparison, would be
> "period space dot dot dot space"). And, as weird as
> it may sound, when the
> dots occur as an end to dialogue, I prefer it all
> run together. "C'mon,
> Smitty, do you really think..." as opposed to "do
> you really think. . ."
> <Shrug> I didn't know there was such a lack of hard
> and fast rules in this
> situation.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:24 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: ellipses
>
>
> > Well, when I put in true elipses, I do put the
> spaces
> > between the dots, both because this is the way I
> > learned to do it in school and because it's the
> way
> > Project Gutenberg says to do it, and I was doing
> work
> > for them before I got so involved with bookshare.
> And,
> > when the ellipse comes after a period, it would be
> > period space dot space dot space dot space.
> >
> > Peter, Jesse, Gustavo, et al -- does bookshare
> have a
> > preference? Or do you blind readers have a
> preference?
> > I'm happy to change if that's annoying to braille
> > readers or listeners.
> >
> > Cindy
> > --- "Norma A. Boge-Conyers" <naboge@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I think the ellipses should be considered as a
> mark
> > > of punctuation, i.e. it
> > > should not be separated from the word preceding
> it.
> > > So the correct form,
> > > IMHO, would be John... not John ... HTH
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:24 AM 9/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > >Okay, I don't know if they're called elipses or
> > > not--elipses may be
> > > >referring to journalistic dots to signify words
> > > being removed from quoted
> > > >text or dialogue. What I'm talking about is in
> > > fiction, when there are
> > > >dots in the narrative. I ask one of you
> sighted
> > > folk here to help me
> > > >settle an issue once and for all that's been
> > > bugging me for quite some
> > > >time. Here's a fake paragraph illustrating
> what
> > > I'm talking about:
> > > >
> > > >John walked into the bar ...
> > > >
> > > >... and found himself staring into the eyes of
> his
> > > beloved.
> > > >
> > > >"John..." she breathed.
> > > >
> > > >"Susan...?" he responded.
> > > >
> > > >"... You're ... looking well," she stammered.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Anyway, you get the idea. I'm overusing them,
> just
> > > to make sure there's
> > > >no doubt about what I'm referring to.
> > > >
> > > >My question is this: I don't know how to fix
> these
> > > dots. Many times,
> > > >instead of being clumped together there are
> spaces
> > > between them. (instead
> > > >of "..." you get ". . ."). Sometimes, when
> someone
> > > is speaking, there's a
> > > >space between the last word of dialogue
> ("John..."
> > > instead of "John ..."),
> > > >and when the dots occur at the beginning or end
> of
> > > a narrative paragraph,
> > > >I never know whether to put spaces between the
> last
> > > word and the dots or
> > > >not, or, as the case may be, the first word of
> the
> > > new paragraph and its
> > > >dots. OCR isn't consistent as to how to deal
> with
> > > this, and I'd just like
> > > >to know how to fix them when they're wrongly
> > > recognized. Yes, it's petty,
> > > >and doesn't interfere with legibility ... but
> I'm a
> > > perfectionist in my
> > > >own editing, and would like to know this for my
> own
> > > writing as well; I may
> > > >not be putting spaces where there should be
> spaces
> > > and such. What's the
> > > >"right" way to use these? How's it done in
> print
> > > books? Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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