[bookport] Re: Suggestion for New Feature
- From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:31:24 -0500
I know, and I even see a lot of folks in the BEP program in a lot of states,
including ours, that aren't getting rich at it, and are not tech savy. But I
am sure they could get a lot of good out of a simple to use device. But I
guess our friends would rather they continue to use a Perkins Braille Writer
since they aren't technically gifted.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Melia" <uncle.jam@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:02 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: Suggestion for New Feature
:I agree with you I work making 30 thousand dollars a year and I can't buy
: such things as the backdates and other such stuff. in fact I can't justify
: buying anyway.
: and why is it that blind folks have to be very techie in order to use some
: of the stuff out there. if many sight folks had to work as hard to get a
: thing to work they would not do it.
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:57 PM
: Subject: [bookport] Re: Suggestion for New Feature
:
:
: > That is what I thought too, but I have noticed that that only works as
: > long is it doesn't cross with the wants of certain people on the list who
: > love to be critical of any idea that isn't theirs.
: >
: > My concern at this point is that I see the Book Port as a device which
: > could fill the need for a good book reader, and also the need for an easy
: > to use organizer. It is fine for the techie bunch to say "well I have a
: > PDA and don't need another one". But, I can think of a lot of blind folks
: > that I work with as an assistive technology specialist with a state agency
: > for the blind who can't use those wonderful PDAs and never will have the
: > ability level to use a device as sophisticated as PacMate, BrailleNote,
: > Maestro, etc. For them the best solution has been the Parot VoiceMate,
: > but that is no longer made. For a long time it was the unit of choice,
: > but over the past two years the workmanship went to pot on those units and
: > we along with other agencies had to quit recommending them.
: >
: > My point is there are a lot of non-techie people who could get a lot of
: > use from a hand-held unit with a simple notetaker, alarms, basic
: > calculator, and a simple way to save names, addresses and phone numbers.
: > These people may or may not be able to use the book reading features, but
: > those who can use the book reading features could also make use of the
: > other features.
: >
: > I guess I am a little tired of the technically gifted, who have the money
: > to buy, and ability to use a PDA coming out with blatent attitudes that
: > tell me that they have no idea what so many blind people cannot do or
: > afford to do.
: >
: > Finally, it is those independant living people who need this type of
: > technology who state counselors may spend $300 or $400 for, but you will
: > never convince them to purchase a $1200 or higher PDA for one of these
: > folks.
: >
: >
: > ----- Original Message -----
: > From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
: > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:43 AM
: > Subject: [bookport] Re: Suggestion for New Feature
: >
: >
: > : But let's give APH some credit here. They know what's workable and
: > what's
: > : not. That's why they've told us to let the suggestions flow. They'll
: > sort
: > : out the possible from the impossible, the practical from the
: > impractical.
: > :
: > : Bruce
: > :
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: > : On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Walt Smith wrote:
: > :
: > : > The real problem, though, is that if an address book were added, the
: > _next_
: > : > "little enhancement" that'd be requested would be the ability to do
: > e-mail
: > : > on the device. These things are always incremental--I've been
: > following the
: > : > blindness technology field for fifty years and that's been the
: > universal
: > : > experience. It's not necessarily that an address book, per se, is bad
: > : > (although I oppose it), but what the _next_ demand would be based on
: > the
: > : > fact that it'd been included. The same with a radio--you put one into
: > the BP
: > : > and the next thing that would be demanded would be the ability to
: > record
: > : > from the radio to the BP.
: > : >
: > : > ----- Original Message -----
: > : > From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:07 PM
: > : > Subject: [bookport] Re: Suggestion for New Feature
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Following your argument that it is a book reader and music player then
: > Book
: > : > Port shouldn't have an alarm feature or a notetaker.
: > : >
: > : > why are some people so insistant that the Book Port should not be
: > flexable?
: > : > You would think I were talking about some big expensive addition. I
: > doubt
: > : > that it would take much more programming code than the alarms feature,
: > and
: > : > probably would not be as difficult to write and make it work right as
: > the
: > : > alarms feature.
: > : >
: > : > Your excuse that it will drive the cost up seems to have become the
: > standard
: > : > excuse for those who want no change.
: > : >
: > : > Frankly, a lot of college students are using Book Port, and for them
: > the
: > : > devices that will perform the most functions without having to carry
: > around
: > : > tons of things are what are going to be successful. I also have my
: > doubts
: > : > that one of the primary objectives of APH was to make an accessible
: > MP3
: > : > music player. I am sure the idea was to play books that might be in
: > MP3
: > : > format, but so long as there is sufficient memory why not include
: > another
: > : > feature that I think most users would find useful.
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > ----- Original Message -----
: > : > From: "Mark Lee" <lee.mark@xxxxxxxxx>
: > : > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:13 AM
: > : > Subject: [bookport] Re: Suggestion for New Feature
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > : I'm not fighting it, and it would be a nice feature to have, but
: > let's
: > : > : remember what the bookport's primary function is, namely, to read
: > books
: > : > and
: > : > : listen to music. Putting an address book templet in a Braille 'n
: > Speak
: > : > : makes since, since it was a PDA. If I need to take down a quick
: > name,
: > : > : address, phone number, etc. with my bookport, I usually record a
: > memo and
: > : > : transfer it to something else when I get home. I guess what my
: > point is
: > : > how
: > : > : much will this feature be actually used? Before long, the bookport
: > will
: > : > : become more a personal data assistant than a book reader. The more
: > : > features
: > : > : are added, the higher the price will be. I don't want the bookport
: > to one
: > : > : day cost as much as a Braille note. It would be very nice to have
: > an
: > : > : all-in-one device that fit in a pocket that you can use to do
: > everything
: > : > : from reading books to taking notes to making phone calls, etc.
: > : > : Unfortunately however, more features mean higher prices. I
: > understand
: > : > that
: > : > : this is the 21st century, and technology is getting smaller, faster
: > and
: > : > more
: > : > : flexible. However, with adaptive technology as high in price as it
: > is, it
: > : > : doesn't become cheaper.
: > : > :
: > : > : Mark
: > : > : ASK, "WHAT GOALS WOULD YOU SET FOR YOURSELF IF YOU COULD NOT FAIL?"
: > Don't
: > : > : ask if it's possible or impossible. Don't worry about failing. Focus
: > on
: > : > what
: > : > : you want, and let that be your guideline.
: > : > : ----- Original Message -----
: > : > : From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : > : To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : > : Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 10:06 PM
: > : > : Subject: [bookport] Re: Suggestion for New Feature
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : > : > Nothing, but I guess I would ask you what is wrong with a small
: > : > : > address/phonebook application. I can't think that it would need
: > to take
: > : > : > much more code than the alarms app, and could make management of
: > names,
: > : > : > addresses and phone numbers easier.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > I heard the same question as yours when an address/phonebook was
: > put
: > : > into
: > : > : > Braille 'N Speak.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > My other most immediate response was to ask what's wrong with
: > coming
: > : > into
: > : > : > the 21st century? But, some people will fight making things
: > easier at
: > : > all
: > : > : > costs.
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : > ----- Original Message -----
: > : > : > From: "Mark Lee" <lee.mark@xxxxxxxxx>
: > : > : > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : > : > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:51 PM
: > : > : > Subject: [bookport] Re: Suggestion for New Feature
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : What's wrong with putting names, phone numbers, etc. into a
: > notes file
: > : > : > and
: > : > : > : searching the file with the search feature?
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Mark
: > : > : > : ----- Original Message -----
: > : > : > : From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : > : > : To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : > : > : Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:21 AM
: > : > : > : Subject: [bookport] Suggestion for New Feature
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : >I would like to see a simple address-phonebook on the Book
: > Port. Let
: > : > : > me be
: > : > : > : >a bit more spacific about what I would want it to do so that
: > you
: > : > : > realize
: > : > : > : >that I am taking into consideration memory limitations on the
: > current
: > : > : > Book
: > : > : > : >Port.
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > I would like this simple address/phonebook to be able to enter
: > first
: > : > : > and
: > : > : > : > last name, address, home - work - mobile phone numbers and a
: > 200
: > : > word
: > : > : > memo
: > : > : > : > memo field. The database could be searched by first and/or
: > last
: > : > name.
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > The idea would be to keep it simple, keep it small, and if it
: > makes
: > : > a
: > : > : > : > difference I could see a limit of no more than 200 entries.
: > : > : > : >
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