[bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.

  • From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:44:55 -0500

Not sure I see the problem with just selecting the header on the page 
and deleting it.

Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:23 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.


It's not a good idea to let K1K take care of the headings for you.  As
Monica mentioned, the problem is that there's no way to be certain 
what page
one is currently on in the sequence.

Pratik


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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill 
O'Connell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:38 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.

It does take time I know but I simply go to the end of the header on 
the
page and remove the words, stopping at the page number. If the number 
is at
the end of the header, I start omitting at the last header word. I 
have
simply found that there are too many inconsistencies in headers to 
rely on
global search and as a braille reader I hate the garbled headers that
result.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:03 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.


> Actually, I suppose it's about the same amount of work to reinsert 
> the
> page numbers as it is to take out the headers as you read along. 
> Because
> with K1000 at least, when I tried removing the headers on a book 
> with page

> numbers at the top of the page, it took the page numbers along with 
> the
> headers. So it may be just a matter of preference whether you want 
> to put
> the page numbers back in by hand or take out the headers by hand. 
> Though,
> if the headers or footers are pretty consistent, you can use global 
> search

> and replace under certain conditions if it is done carefully.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:05 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.
>
>
>>I am not sure about open book but in kurzweil it doesn't hurt.
>> Skype contact bobwichitaks phone 316-524-5454
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "maithe007" <maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:11 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.
>>
>>
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>> I have a question about the headers.  I am afraid to use the
>>> header/footer stripper in my Openbook...should I be doing this 
>>> with all
>>> my scans?  I am afraid I will distort the text.  Thanks in 
>>> advance.
>>>
>>> Maithe
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "robert tweedy" <roberttweedy@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:56 PM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Monica you explained it better than I did. I have seen a 
>>>> few
>>>> books with the headers still in them and there have a lot of 
>>>> books with

>>>> errors in them but I am not on anyone's case or anything All of 
>>>> us that

>>>> includes scanners have to do a better job.
>>>> Skype contact bobwichitaks phone 316-524-5454
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:55 PM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: yes, let's get tough.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Mickey. I think people are basically saying that since we're 
>>>>> being
>>>>> paid more credit to validate, let's do a good job and not just 
>>>>> pass
>>>>> stuff through the system. In the past, some people would 
>>>>> validate a
>>>>> bunch of books to earn a year's membership. They didn't spend 
>>>>> much
>>>>> time
>>>>> in individual books because they knew they'd have had to 
>>>>> validate 100
>>>>> books in a year to earn next year's membership. That has changed 
>>>>> now.
>>>>> I
>>>>> could be wrong, but I think people are just encouraging each 
>>>>> other to
>>>>> raise the bar of what's acceptable validation. You have always 
>>>>> been a
>>>>> careful validater, Mickey, so I don't see that this would change 
>>>>> a lot
>>>>> for you. (smile) You taught me a lot about being a good 
>>>>> validater. I
>>>>> used to be the kind of person who would just get a book and read 
>>>>> it,
>>>>> ignoring small errors and only stopping if I literally couldn't 
>>>>> read
>>>>> something. That has changed, and you, Sue, Katie, and Elizabeth 
>>>>> are
>>>>> all
>>>>> responsible for helping me make that change. It didn't happen
>>>>> overnight
>>>>> or even over a period of weeks. It took me a good year or more 
>>>>> to
>>>>> finally understand and then incorporate careful validation 
>>>>> principles
>>>>> into how I do things. It's taken another year for me to refine 
>>>>> the
>>>>> process, to use a system to do these things quickly and 
>>>>> comfortably.
>>>>>
>>>>> Monica Willyard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> mickey wrote:
>>>>>> I think I'll do pretty much the same job I've always done, 
>>>>>> because I
>>>>>> think all of us are doing our best. I don't know that we should
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> our criteria for accepting or rejecting a book. We validators 
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> hard to make the best product we can. Because we've changed our 
>>>>>> rate
>>>>>> of pay, I don't quite understand what that has to do with the
>>>>>> scanners. Maybe I'm missing something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mickey Prahin
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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