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  • From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:32:21 -0800

Hi, Debby, I like using it because at least I know how the Braille should
look. I have come across little  things, for example, a word with an
ellipsis right next to it without a space and a second word connected to the
end of the ellipsis. I've read Braille for a long time and know that
ellipses should be by themselves with spaces separating them from
surrounding words. The scan I'm looking at is very clean. So far, there
aren't many errors. I did see a four word combination with hyphens except
for the last word, so put in a hyphen because maybe the scanner didn't catch
it. I listen to the text and follow along in Braille for the sake of double
checking. When I come across something I should get rid of, I use the arrow
keys on the computer to get me to the place and I'm looking at the Braille
display with one hand until I'm at the spot then delete something or correct
something. I'm trying not to mess with the scan or the spacing because I
don't know how to deal with that yet. My feeling is if it ain't broke, don't
fix it. I've been saving the changes I make every time I close the file, so
hopefully when it is done, I can send this file to the check in point at
Bookshare. I think I'll ask questions of the submitter if I run into
difficulties, but so far things are okay. What's nice about this is while
I'm proofreading the file, I'm reading the story. Yes, it's true, Debby, I'm
reading every single solitary word. Thanks for your note. I enjoy hearing
from you. I'm giving the computer a rest as it's almost 12:30 A.M. and I
want to finish my mystery magazine. Regards, Kim.

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:44 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: taking the plungeRE: Re: bookbooks

Hi Kim!

I'm proud of you for figuring out how to get your Braille Note to help you
proof.  Way to go!  Is there an advantage to using a braille display while
proofing?  I don't have one, so I depend entirely on speech.

Debby

At 05:10 PM 11/2/2009, Kim Friedman wrote
>Hi, Debby, what I understand is the submitter and proofreader can work 
>together as a team. I want to do just enough and not too much, i.e., I 
>don't want to mess up the submitter's work if I can help it. I was 
>getting a bit frustrated before I thought to leave the file on the 
>computer and both listen to and read the file in Braille. When I've 
>mastered the word processing stuff in my BrailleNote manual (yawn), and 
>know how to get the BrailleNOte to recognize the file, I'll continue in
this way I've chosen.
>Right now, I'm reading every word of the text (I want to know what 
>happens next). So I don't think I'll be one of those slam-bang jiffy 
>proofreaders that I understand are the despair of conscientious 
>submitters. I figure for now to proofread the sort of stuff I read 
>anyway. Last night I was definitely beginning to have fun because I was 
>progressing from helpless frustration to a mere glimmer of confidence. 
>I'm not at the stage of being "an old hand". I'll cheer you on and expect
you'll do the same for me.
>Regards, Kim.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
>Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:16 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: taking the plungeRE: Re: bookbooks
>
>Hi Kim!
>
>I hope you enjoy proofreading as much as I am.  Just go through 
>carefully, and I know you'll do fine.
>
>Debby
>
>At 06:49 PM 10/31/2009, Kim Friedman wrote
> >Hi, Debby, thanks for your comments. I appreciate making friends on 
> >this list. Wish me well, for I'm going to try proofreading again and 
> >hope it works out that every word is spelled right, every sentence 
> >lacks nothing the author intended to write and I hope my job is good 
> >enough that it ends up in the collection. Cross your fingers. Regards,
Kim.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby 
> >Franson
> >Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:50 PM
> >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: taking the plungeRE: Re: bookbooks
> >
> >Hi Kim!
> >
> >Take your time when learning the scanning.  There is no rush, and I 
> >know you can do it.  You express yourself well, so I agree with 
> >whoever said it quite a few messages ago that you are sharp.  Just a 
> >little shaky
>confidence now.
> >A few years ago, I tried OmniPage, and that OCR package baffled me, 
> >so I know the feeling about something that is baffling.
> >
> >Debby
> >
> >At 05:34 PM 10/30/2009, Kim Friedman wrote
> > >Hi, Monica, again, thanks much for writing. I thank you also for 
> > >the compliment and I grant you I have my moments, but at other 
> > >times, I don't feel sharp at all. I'll let you know when I actually 
> > >do something or take the plunge into scanning. I'm not really 
> > >worried about crashing the computer and I know I haven't hurt the 
> > >scanner, but it's actually wanting to do it. Again, I don't think 
> > >there's any rush on this, as long as I eventually screw up my courage
and say:
> > >"Okay, Friedman, there's something I want to scan and now is the 
> > >time for you to get off your rear end and do the thing." Take care, 
> > >best regards, happy reading, and if you wish to write me off list, 
> > >please do so. That way the list gurus won't get us into trouble. Kim
Friedman.
> > >
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica 
> > >Willyard
> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:12 AM
> > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks
> > >
> > >Kim, you can put your book or scanner in any position you like. I 
> > >have mine set up like yours with the lid at the back. Scanners come 
> > >in different sizes and shapes. Because of that, and because of our 
> > >computer desks, we all have slightly different set-ups. Kurzweil 
> > >will detect if pages are upside down or sideways. It's something I 
> > >really like about the program.
> > >
> > >Just relax and try scanning something simple like a letter or a 
> > >page in a novel. You'll find that you learn so much by 
> > >experimenting. You can't hurt your scanner or crash your computer by
scanning something.
> > >If it doesn't come out well, it just means that you need to adjust 
> > >your settings in Kurzweil. We can teach you how to do that. You can 
> > >do
>this.
> > >I can tell you're a sharp woman, and you're going to have fun once 
> > >you get
> >started.
> > >(smile)
> > >
> > >Monica Willyard
> > >"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter 
> > >Drucker
> > >
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