[bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers?

  • From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:56:31 -0700

Hi, I can only speak from my perspective as a reader. I have an omnibus
volume entitled Ngaio Marsh: Five Complete Novels by Ngaio marsh. It lists a
table of Contents, and there two sets of page numbers, one is for print
pagination. I learned about the other when I press the spacebar and keys 1,
5, and 6 on my BrailleNote mPower. If I wish to know where I am in the book
that's what I do. I think the print pagination is incidental as far as I'm
concerned, but is probably needed for the sake of accuracy. How do other
people perceive this? I suppose it depends on the method one employs when
reading Bookshare files. Regards, Kim aka Ellinder. 

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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rik James
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:31 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers?


The first book I ever submitted I did not know or ever even consider about
page numbers. I got a nice email from someone who was proofing asking me
what about pages such and such?  I wondered to myself at first, what's the
big deal, the text is all good, and so on.  Then soon I discovered she was
correct, there was some missing and some duplicates.  So lesson learned.  It
was quite a learning experience, and ever since I have paid close attention
to the page numbers as I scan a book and then look it over to see that it
all is there before I submit it.  The person who actually has the book in
hand can save a lot of worry and problem solving by getting it right at the
front end of the project, I believe.  
 
One thing I do now is to also look at the page numbers listed in the Table
of Contents when the book has one.  To check to see if the page numbers for
the corresponding chapters fall on that page and that there is a page
number.  Sometimes there is a blank page at the end of a chapter or between
them and it will not have a page number printed but it is part of the
pagination.  
 
All of the business of how many pages your file has in your unit, that gets
sort of strange, and I always just look right away (so to speak, using
speech or whatever) to see where pagination begins in the book, with roman
numerals, or whatever. They are not always marked, yet may be reflected in
the table of contents. So I make sure as best I can that the pagination
works all like it is supposed to.  
 
And I do move page numbers to the top even if they are at the bottom myself.
I know someone said they thought that might be changing too much from the
original. I have to say I do not think it does.  In fact as a reader, if I
hear that the page number is at the end of a page I am usually fooled and am
thinking I am starting on the next page.   Some good number of books from
Bookshare have two page numbers that do not match together in the text.  I
don't know what is the reason this happens. I do get used to it, but it is a
bit confusing and I think, unnecessary if we who submit take on those tasks
early on and just pay attention as we go before submitting.
 
If I am out of line, sorry. Just going off what I have experienced thus far
in this little wee world of book scanning.
 
Thanks.
Rik
 
 


From: Mayrie ReNae <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>  
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 8:19 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers?

Hi Megan,
 
    I have noticed that when Amazon gives a page count, it often includes
preliminary pages.  Perhaps your page count will match if you add the number
of preliminary pages, and the number of pages of actual text?  
 
    Good luck!
 
Mayrie
 
 

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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Megmil85@xxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:11 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Page numbers?


Yes, that's the one. It seems that the text portion has 164 pages, that's
the page count word and my BrailleNote gave me for the part without the
front matter but Amazon.com says it should have 176 so I'm not sure what the
inconsistency is related to. The book scanned great, no duplications or
omissions so I don't know if I should just insert page numbers at the top of
each page even though it'll come out shorter than it supposedly should be or
if we could/should go through and see what each page starts with. 
    I'm new at this, especially the page number policy,  so just tell me
what I should do. Oh, can you do me two favors? Can you tell me what was on
the title page, they told me I needed to insert one before the copyright
when I tried to submit it this morning, how many Roman Numerals there are
and how many pages? I want to make sure I get the title page right and maybe
Amazon got the page count wrong. Thanks! 
    I loved this book, I have to say. I was surprised and had just gotten it
thinking it'd be an easy read, but I really enjoyed it.
 
In a message dated 6/1/2009 6:52:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
amber.wallens@xxxxxxxxx writes:


I think I scanned the book you are referring to, if it's Halloween Rain.  I
have the book if there are any problems.  I submitted it before BKS's page
number policy.
Amber
Book blog:
http://community.livejournal.com/book_cuddler/
I have accepted a seat in the House of Representatives, and thereby have
consented to my own ruin, to your ruin, and to the ruin of our children. I
give
you this warning that you may prepare your mind for your fate.
John Adams
E-Mail: amber.wallens@xxxxxxxxx



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