[bksvol-discuss] Re: Is the Braille Translator Messing Up Ellipses?
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:58:21 -0700
Hi Evan,
Don't give up hope. I'm certain it's all coming. They do have folks
working on all of this stuff. It will happen, I'm certain! And then, as
has happened with the em dashes, all of the old books will be fixed too.
Just keep on truckin' and know that our best is our best, and what we all
produce is a far cry from what even the most conscientious of proofreaders
were able to create from scans done ten years ago. Progress happens,
unfortunately, almost always more slowly than we would like.
I am confident that good changes will happen, and that what we have all
discovered and shared as long-time volunteers has made, and continues to
make a huge difference for each other and for the readers of Bookshare
books.
Okay, enough cheerleading from me, lest someone slap me!
Mayrie
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:41 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is the Braille Translator Messing Up Ellipses?
Oh, wow! If we only had a braille translator that could just recognize the
ellipsis character and replace it with the three dot threes as it does when
it sees three periods in a row. I really don't understand why higher ANSI
characters haven't been added to the translation table years ago. Same with
opening and closing quotes, and others. It's not as though these higher
characters were just invented last week or something.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Lumpkin" <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is the Braille Translator Messing Up Ellipses?
> Thanks Judy! I just made the change as per your instructions! I too will
> hold on to these.
>
> Susan
> !
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:38 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is the Braille Translator Messing Up
> Ellipses?
>
> Hi Lori,
>
> I think this is how I did it:
>
> Choose Tools/Autocorrect. In the Autocorrect pane, scroll down in
> "Replace as you type" list to the three periods entry (it's near
> the top). Select the entry and click Delete. That should do it!
>
> Judy s.
>
> Mayrie ReNae wrote:
>> Hi Lori,
>>
>> I can't find it now either. And the only way I could find to make it
>> work was to type three periods, let Word create the ellipses character,
>> then when I'm done, go back and do a find and replace with that
>> character in the find box, and three periods in the replace box. It
>> seems the autoformat only happens as you type, not upon opening a
> document.
>>
>> I know there's a way to change this and make Word not create the
>> ellipses character when you type three periods, but I can't remember
>> how to do it now, and can't find it in the menus either.
>>
>> Frustrating! But finding one and replacing all of them in the document
>> works. Guess it's something to do at the very end of proofreading.
>>
>> I'm sorry. I wish my memory weren't so awful!
>>
>> See how bad it is that I proofread primarily using Kurzweil? I'd know
>> this if I used Word more!
>>
>> Again, I'm sorry!
>>
>> I'll bet Melissa, or Judy knows how to fix this! So, so sorry!
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Lori Castner
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 08, 2011 9:46 AM
>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is the Braille Translator Messing Up
>> Ellipses?
>>
>> Mayrie,
>>
>> I've looked everywhere under autoCorrect and autoFormat to verify that I
>> have ellipses turned off. I can't find it anywhere.
>> I have Word 2002.
>> Lori C.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Mayrie ReNae <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2011 8:06 PM
>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is the Braille Translator Messing Up
>> Ellipses?
>>
>> Hi Evan,
>>
>> I'm discovering messages in my folder of volunteer e-mails that I
>> never saw come in, so please forgive this very late answer to your
>> probably long forgotten note.
>>
>> You ask about the ellipsis being inaccurately represented in brf
>> copies of Bookshare's books. One cause of this may be that the
>> proofreader didn't have the autoformatting feature of Word turned
>> off that changes all ellipsis typed as three periods into the
>> ellipsis character. If this is not turned off, when a person types
>> three periods, or unites three periods separated by spaces, the
>> resulting thing will be the ellipsis character, which the braille
>> translator as yet can't translate properly. So, all proofreaders
>> using Word need to turn off that autoformatting feature.
>>
>> Hope that makes sense.
>>
>> Mayrie
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *EVAN
>> REESE
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:33 PM
>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Is the Braille Translator Messing Up
>> Ellipses?
>>
>> I don't normally read books I've scanned after they get approved,
>> since I either read through them before submitting them, or I
>> scanned them for someone else that I myself didn't want to read, but
>> knew they would read through completely before checking them in.
>> Today though, I started reading a book that I didn't read when I
>> scanned it, but that Lissi thought I would like. In the brf version
>> of the book, I discovered that everywhere there is an ellipsis,
>> (three periods in a row without spaces, not the special character
>> ellipsis), the brf version of the file has not the three dot threes
>> that are supposed to be there, but just one dot three. I checked a
>> slightly older book that we did and found the same thing. I compared
>> the brf file I downloaded from Bookshare with the original file I
>> scanned, so there's no mistake. All the ellipses in the brf versions
>> are just one dot three.
>>
>> I don't know how far back this goes. The book I originally
>> discovered this issue in was added to the collection on July 30,
>> 2010. The slightly older book I checked which has the same problem
>> was added on April 16, 2010; so it's been going on for at least
>> several months, unless it's been fixed since July 30. I'm sure that
>> the brf versions used to have the ellipsis correct, but at some
>> point it seems that a bug was introduced.
>>
>> Evan
>>
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