The distance between Yavapai Point and the Lodge at North rim is almost exactly 9 miles (47,000 ft.). The area lit up on the back wall was somewhere around 25 ft wide. That's about 3 ft per mile give or take. The South rim warriors confessed to using 20 mW lasers against our <5mW lasers, causing escalation of 'powers' to commence for next year. Even though spread out after 9 mi of travel, they were still bright and flashed brightly to our dark adapted eyes, but no after-images (or damage, I'm sure). Jack Jones Public Events Coordinator Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix AZ Telescoper@xxxxxxx www.saguaroastro.org Sp@m: Don't try - Don't buy - Don't reply. Tom sayed: > Thad hit on the main point: how could one possibly track a vehicle that's > moving so fast? Also, consider the size of an amateur astronomer's laser > at the typical distance to an airplane viewed from an observing site. > Even when we used to set up at Buckeye Hills, where flights came overhead > on final approach, their altitude was still several miles. The laser is > visible at this distance, but if I understand the stories from the Grand > Canyos Star Party North/South Rim laser wars, the beam of a consumer laser > diverges at a pretty great angle. Wouldn't the spot be several feet in > diameter at the typical airplane distance of seven-plus miles? > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.