A thought just occurred to me regarding the Kaspersky notification
window appearing in the action center and not as a separate window.
What would happen if you went into Notification settings in Windows and
unchecked Kaspersky? I'm not able to try this, as my notifications are
currently appearing in its own window, with the exception of
notifications telling me that a scan was completed and that no threats
were discovered.
For kicks:
Go into the notification settings and disable Kaspersky.
Now, plug in a USB thumb drive. Does the warning appear at all or in a
separate window?
On 3/20/2017 10:49 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
Hi,
I totally concur II dare you to suggest this to them along with some of us the more the merrier though sadly I suspect they will not accommodate us though it sure does make life easier when it’s done this way or could be user defined to do such.
Robin
*From:* David Goldfield
*Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 7:28 AM
*To:* av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [av-a11y] Re: Changes to Kaspersky
If Kaspersky is choosing to place these notifications in the Action Center, what they should consider is a user-definable option to allow notifications to be shown either in the Action Center or in a separate window. The latter option would allow the alt+tab hotkey to take you to the window where the dialog appears.
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 3/19/2017 5:09 PM, Brenda wrote:
Hi Mike & Merve
thank you both for your info. with Win7 they make it so easy ity's hard. It didn't occur to me to look for "help me focus". Once I found that I was able to set the notification time to 5 minutes.
Now I need to get a notification when I'm at my computer so I can see how to access it. I think shift tabbing might work. Merve mentioned how he used to access notifications so I'll have to go back and find that in order to try it.
I need to get this stuff done soon as my AVG is almost expired and Kaspersky is much better.
thanks again for all your help. I really appreciate this list.
brenda
On 3/19/2017 4:00 PM, Mike Winegarden wrote:
Hi Brenda
Did you get the ease of access figured out?
I am using JAWS 18 with windows 7 on this computer. Here is what I just did.
Windows button and then I typed ease
The ease of access centre came up right away. I hit enter.
I tabbed 13 times or so to, make it easier to focus on tasks link. Hit enter.
I then tabbed about 10 times to, how long should windows notification dialog boxes stay open. Then arrow down to the time you desire. I just set it to 1 minute from 5 seconds.
I don’t have Kasperskyon this machine but I do on my windows 10 computer and I haven’t even looked at that yet.
Ok, Now I have this time increased on this windows machine I don’t know how to access the alerts when they come up.
I’m part way there though, right? Grin.
Michael
*From:*av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Brenda
*Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 4:26 PM
*To:* av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [av-a11y] Re: Changes to Kaspersky
Hi Merv
thank you for these steps to work with kaspersky. I'm using a win 7 machine and can't even figure out how to make notifications last longer. I can't seem to find this in settings. Pressing Windows I doesn't do it, nor does typing ease of access in the search box.
I use Window-Eyes right now, and I imagine using the mouse pointer is like the touch pointer in jaws once I get that far.
I'm hoping you or someone else can help me change the notification setting using win7.
thanks,
thanks,
brenda
On 3/18/2017 2:32 PM, Merv Keck wrote:
Hi David, Brenda and all:
You are correct David that windows has started placing this in
the action center. This is new behavior as of about a week ago.
Before that, it appeared as an alert window in the upper right
corner of the screen and I could select it with Windows + tab if
I chose to. And I could tab around in that window and make a
number of selections. Now it is relegated to the Action center.
And Windows + A will access it. I spent a great deal of time
learning how to best access this window last night and I have
several work arounds. At least for Jaws 18. I don’t know how
that translates to NVDA 17.1. I have NVDA on my system but I
have not tested it yet.
First I have my toasts staying around long enough for me to act
upon them. I did that by going into settings, Windows + I, and
then going to Ease of access. And then selecting Other. And then
changing the combo box for time a notification stays up from a
few seconds to as long as I choose. I chose 5 minutes but some
may choose 30 seconds or 1 minute.
Then while in Settings, I go to system. And then to
Notifications and Actions. Once I tap enter on Notifications and
Actions I tab to Kaspersky and make sure that it is checked. If
it is not checked I will check it by tapping space. Once I check
it I will be taken to Home so I will have to tab back through
again. That is a Windows flaw and just needs to be done. Don’t
let it distract you. If you do not have Kaspersky checked and
you check it now it will give you various options to tab through
such as number of notifications to display and type of priority.
I set mine for 3 notifications and top priority. I then had to
tap space twice in order to confirm the settings.
Now when I do anything that ordinarily brings up a Kaspersky
notification it shows up in my alert pop up. And I have time to
tap windows + A in order to act on it.
Now here is the part where Jaws may act different than NVDA.
Some notifications require me to access my touch cursor to act
upon them. So I tap Shift + the Plus key on my numeric keypad
and Jaws says touch cursor. Then I arrow left or right through
the notification until I hear the button I want or check box and
I tap space. When I am done with touch cursor I tap the Plus key
on the numeric keypad twice and it says PC cursor.
I have tested this with a variety of situations. I’m not
promising this will work 100% of the time. But so far it has
served me well.
Hope that helps.
Merv
*From:*av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *David Goldfield
*Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:57 AM
*To:* av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [av-a11y] Re: Changes to Kaspersky
As I am a Kaspersky user I find this of particular interest. I
am not seeing this behavior but I am not using any of the
Internet security packages. I'm using Kaspersky Antivirus
17.0.0.611D, Windows 10 with NVDA 2017.1. I'm wondering if the
options are appearing in the Windows action center, rather than
a separate window? That's just a guess, however. If you press
the Windows key with the letter A is the message from Kaspersky
in that list?
I would encourage you to contact them about this, especially via
Twitter.
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info>
On 3/17/2017 8:04 PM, Merv Keck wrote:
I also tried it with NVDA with the same results. I will see
what narrator does tonight but I’m expecting the results to
be the same.
*From:* av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Robin Frost
*Sent:* Friday, March 17, 2017 6:08 PM
*To:* av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [av-a11y] Re: Changes to Kaspersky
Hi,
Yes sir I’ve noted this for about the past week or so with
JFW 17 and NVDA under Windows 10 and wondered what
precipitated the change as it displeases and worries me. I
switched from Vipre to Kaspersky due to the promise of
better accessibility once installed so to see it potentially
take a hit is a bit disquieting.
Robin
*From:*Merv Keck
*Sent:*Friday, March 17, 2017 4:42 PM
*To:*av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:*[av-a11y] Changes to Kaspersky
Hi,
I am using Kaspersky Internet Security 2017, KIS 17.
Beginning very recently the notifications that popped up
when something needed permission such as a thumb drive was
inserted or an audio stream was accessed beyond the usual
security setting, was changed so that it is no longer
possible to just tab through the options and tap space on
the button to either allow or not allow whatever your choice
is for any given situation. I am not sure if this sudden and
recent change has occurred because of Windows or because of
Kaspersky. I am using windows 10 and Jaws 18 with KIS 17. I
was wondering if anyone else is noticing this decreased
accessibility with any other configuration of PC, screen
reader, and Kaspersky product? I know two others with my
configuration who are having the same issue.
Merv
