Hi David, Brenda and all:
You are correct David that windows has started placing this in the action
center. This is new behavior as of about a week ago. Before that, it appeared
as an alert window in the upper right corner of the screen and I could select
it with Windows + tab if I chose to. And I could tab around in that window and
make a number of selections. Now it is relegated to the Action center. And
Windows + A will access it. I spent a great deal of time learning how to best
access this window last night and I have several work arounds. At least for
Jaws 18. I don’t know how that translates to NVDA 17.1. I have NVDA on my
system but I have not tested it yet.
First I have my toasts staying around long enough for me to act upon them. I
did that by going into settings, Windows + I, and then going to Ease of access.
And then selecting Other. And then changing the combo box for time a
notification stays up from a few seconds to as long as I choose. I chose 5
minutes but some may choose 30 seconds or 1 minute.
Then while in Settings, I go to system. And then to Notifications and Actions.
Once I tap enter on Notifications and Actions I tab to Kaspersky and make sure
that it is checked. If it is not checked I will check it by tapping space. Once
I check it I will be taken to Home so I will have to tab back through again.
That is a Windows flaw and just needs to be done. Don’t let it distract you. If
you do not have Kaspersky checked and you check it now it will give you various
options to tab through such as number of notifications to display and type of
priority. I set mine for 3 notifications and top priority. I then had to tap
space twice in order to confirm the settings.
Now when I do anything that ordinarily brings up a Kaspersky notification it
shows up in my alert pop up. And I have time to tap windows + A in order to act
on it.
Now here is the part where Jaws may act different than NVDA. Some notifications
require me to access my touch cursor to act upon them. So I tap Shift + the
Plus key on my numeric keypad and Jaws says touch cursor. Then I arrow left or
right through the notification until I hear the button I want or check box and
I tap space. When I am done with touch cursor I tap the Plus key on the numeric
keypad twice and it says PC cursor.
I have tested this with a variety of situations. I’m not promising this will
work 100% of the time. But so far it has served me well.
Hope that helps.
Merv
From: av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:57 AM
To: av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [av-a11y] Re: Changes to Kaspersky
As I am a Kaspersky user I find this of particular interest. I am not seeing
this behavior but I am not using any of the Internet security packages. I'm
using Kaspersky Antivirus 17.0.0.611D, Windows 10 with NVDA 2017.1. I'm
wondering if the options are appearing in the Windows action center, rather
than a separate window? That's just a guess, however. If you press the Windows
key with the letter A is the message from Kaspersky in that list?
I would encourage you to contact them about this, especially via Twitter.
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info>
On 3/17/2017 8:04 PM, Merv Keck wrote:
I also tried it with NVDA with the same results. I will see what narrator does
tonight but I’m expecting the results to be the same.
From: av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:av-a11y-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 6:08 PM
To: av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [av-a11y] Re: Changes to Kaspersky
Hi,
Yes sir I’ve noted this for about the past week or so with JFW 17 and NVDA
under Windows 10 and wondered what precipitated the change as it displeases and
worries me. I switched from Vipre to Kaspersky due to the promise of better
accessibility once installed so to see it potentially take a hit is a bit
disquieting.
Robin
From: Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:42 PM
To: av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:av-a11y@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [av-a11y] Changes to Kaspersky
Hi,
I am using Kaspersky Internet Security 2017, KIS 17. Beginning very recently
the notifications that popped up when something needed permission such as a
thumb drive was inserted or an audio stream was accessed beyond the usual
security setting, was changed so that it is no longer possible to just tab
through the options and tap space on the button to either allow or not allow
whatever your choice is for any given situation. I am not sure if this sudden
and recent change has occurred because of Windows or because of Kaspersky. I am
using windows 10 and Jaws 18 with KIS 17. I was wondering if anyone else is
noticing this decreased accessibility with any other configuration of PC,
screen reader, and Kaspersky product? I know two others with my configuration
who are having the same issue.
Merv
