atw: Re: OT: Grumbling About Elections... vote

  • From: Iinet <mkofler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Iinet <mkofler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:23:50 +1000

Or try watching it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Regards Mark Kofler


On 21/08/2012, at 12:20 AM, Iinet <mkofler@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> As far as I am concerned everything worth saying about politicians, the 
> system, and voting was said by the late great George Carlin. Period. Nothing 
> more to be said, argued or debated. 
> Feel free to substitute Australian equivalents as required:
> http://dotsub.com/view/0b8100cc-b7c5-4b5e-97a3-76911f31e72e/viewTranscript/eng
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/08/2012, at 11:40 PM, Bob Trussler <bob.trussler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Anne,
>> Do people in prison get a vote?
>> Does it depend on the length of their sentence?
>> I read an article on this ages ago and it seemed to me that if a prisoner is 
>> going to be released within the term of the next govt, then they can vote.  
>> If they are in for life, then they don't get a vote.
>> 
>> Of course, the politicians try to get the rules adjusted to 'disenfranchise' 
>> or 're-enfranchise' one group of the population.
>> 
>> I remember Prince Charles commenting that along with idiots and criminals, 
>> he does not get a vote.
>> 
>> VOTING AGE
>> Currently, the voting age is 18.  Seems simple.
>> But how old do you need to be to apply to enrol?  
>> At one time, you had to be 18 to apply.
>> At another time, you had to be on the roll (and 18) when the rolls closed 
>> before an election.
>> This very effectively disenfranchised a lot of 18 year olds who had a 
>> birthday the day before an election, or the day after the rolls closed.
>> Currently, my 16 year old son is filling in his enrolment forms, in 
>> expectation of growing old.
>> 
>> Bob T 
>> 
>> On 20 August 2012 22:26, Anne Casey <writan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Actually, I think there's something like a thousand or more people over 100 
>> who vote - I can't remember the exact figure, but when I asked the 
>> researchers to give me the exact figure, it was way higher than I expected.
>> 
>> The only way you can get out of voting is basically if you've got dementia, 
>> a low IQ, or something else that impairs your thinking - I can't remember 
>> the exact phrase, but it's along the lines of not understanding the meaning 
>> and importance of voting. I'd have to get out my copy of the Act, if you're 
>> really interested.
>> 
>> I wrote all the call centre scripts for the 2004 federal election - I talked 
>> to just about everyone in the Electoral Commission, including several 
>> sessions with the lawyer. 
>> 
>> So yes, I know what I'm talking about (and it was one of the highlights of 
>> my career).
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Should probably have qualified that.     I believe in law it's compulsory, 
>>> but in practice, enforcement is, shall we say, very weak once you get past 
>>> 70? 
>>> 
>>> The principle might be summarised as "Hell hath no fury like a pensioner 
>>> pursued ...." 
>>>   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter M 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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