atw: Re: Here it is: The Queen's English? and politically correct calendars
- From: "Christine Kent" <christine_kent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:19:51 +1000
Don't take it personally Deborah - some of us are just a bit sick of this
nasty little game we all have to play now.
There was a time we cared about the concept of "freedom of speech", but
during the course of my lifetime it has gone - and horrifyingly, it has been
forgotten!
I'm still waiting for Granat to turn up with his Jewish jokes, and surely
there must be one or two good Irishmen out there who are happy to laugh at
themselves!
And this from someone who has written a whole book for the TAFE division
called "Work Effectively with Diversity". Bring back the racist joke, I
say, and let's all laugh again. An Englishman, an Irishman and a Pole were
standing at a bar...
ck
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[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deborah Cross
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:00 AM
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Subject: atw: Re: Here it is: The Queen's English? and politically correct
calendars
At the (very high) risk of prolonging this discussion, I just wanted to
explain that 'of our Lord' was taken out because there was no need to
introduce the concept of religion into the polo match invite. Religion is
(for many) a matter of personal choice. The Queen being head of state is
not (yet). I believe we celebrate the Queen's birthday because of her
position as head of state, not of a church.
We have many staff from non Western backgrounds. I too doubt that they
would be offended (a few said they wouldn't be), but I figure removing 'of
our Lord' doesn't harm the feel of the invitation too much and avoids the
issue altogether! I'm pretty sure most of our staff aren't going to pick
that 'of our Lord' is missing.
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Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 9:38 AM
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Subject: atw: Re: Here it is: The Queen's English? and politically correct
calendars
Deborah, I agree with Christine. I actually discarded my first response,
because I thought I would be singled out as being a bit of a crackpot,
and/or I might be considered as being a bit precious... Besides, the pointed
vitriol I could write on this list over the issue brought up would be
neither appropriate, fair or edifying. Not only that, but the whole thread
started as a bit of fun.! ;-)
I AM A CHRISTIAN. And a Presbyterian, which means I know what faith and
belief truly mean in context of testable, justified doctrine and dogma about
living as Christ would have us, leaving signposts in your life that point to
Christ, not for once but for generations... I avoid forcing my opinions on
others, or afflict people with my beliefs, but there is a point where I will
say "get off my back".
So why discriminate against my beliefs, that this year, 2007, is the year of
"our Lord?" Remove it and offend me. Don't and who exactly will you offend?
Atheists? Agnostics? Satan? (Actually he is the one laughing at us).
As a part time scholar of religion and theology, by leaving it in there, I
strongly doubt you'll offend mainstream, conservative and reasonable:
Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Mormons, JWs, Sikhs and I
could name a few more.
Anyway, I really enjoyed the thread yesterday, it was great fun, and feel
quite invigorated by this vent. I might go find a heretic for a lunch-time
bbq over at Darling Harbour! Steve H, feel like a roasting? Where is he when
you need him...
Warren Lewington
Technical Writer
Phone: 02 8572 3195
warren.lewington@xxxxxxxxxx
John Holland Water Projects
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atw: Here it is: The Queen's English? and politically correct calendars
Oh my goodness - Political correctness gone mad!
Our calendar is based on "the year of our Lord" (albeit incorrectly) so I
guess we have to change our calendar now too - fancy that - another cause
for the politically correct to fight! Which calendar shall we take? Ah I
know, one that has already gone past 2012 - that would be a good idea. Any
candidates?
And all the Queens were practicing Christians of one flavour or another!
Guess we have to rewrite history to pretend they were .........what? But
then, if Queens are not allowed to be Christian any more, should we be
celebrating the birthday of someone who is - oh horror of horrors - not only
a fully fledged church-going Christian but the titular head of the Church of
England! Argggh - take her to court and charge her with offences against
political correctness! What a tangled web...
Does anyone believe this stuff any more? Everyone I have ever talked to
believes political correctness is a sad and meaningless joke, so who is
perpetrating it and enforcing it? Does anyone know? Come on Granat - give
us the Jewish perspective, please, and make it ra(b)bi-d-d. Is the queen
allowed to be Christian, and are we allowed to keep counting years from the
supposed birth of Christ? Can we please get back to "the pursuit of
frivolity and licentiousness".
Amen,
Yours in Christ, Christine
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[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deborah Cross
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 8:34 AM
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Subject: atw: Re: Here it is: The Queen's English?
Thanx for pointing it out Bob. I was asked to remove the 'of our Lord' in
case it offended anyone not Christian, so it's not there anymore.
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[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Trussler
Sent: Monday, 21 May 2007 4:29 PM
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Subject: atw: Re: Here it is: The Queen's English?
shouldn't this have a capital?
seventh year of our Lord.
Just being picky.
Bob T
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I love it - WELL done to all!!!!
:-)
Debbie
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I meant I'm seeking approval of those who helped provide the wording :0) But
yes, my workplace is a little government-like!
OK, here's the wording I'm proposing with thanx to Susy North and Peter G
Martin for much of it:
Here ye, hear ye!
Her Majesty the Queen hereby commands the presence of her loyal subjects for
an equestrian contention between certain of her Colonial servants domiciled
in portions of her kingdoms now known as Australia and certain other
outlanders not so fortunate as to be so permanently settled therein, the
game to be known by this her decree, as the Royal Polo ~ Australian vs.
Expats.
Subjects should gather in the grounds of the South Oval as the clock strikes
midday on the eighth day of June in the two thousand and seventh year of our
lord. Subjects not attired with a hat and sunscreen shall be beheaded.
Faithful subjects will be rewarded with canapés and mocktails at conclusion
of the Royal Polo.
The Royal Polo is held in honour of the celebration of the anniversary of
her majesty's illustrious ancestors' birth, which has been an occasion, in
times past, to assemble for the purposes of gambolling and sundry other
nefarious endeavours, and for the pursuit of frivolity and licentiousness.
XXX commands acknowledgement of your attendance by the first day of June in
the two thousand and seventh year of our lord.
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