atw: Re: Blogging and employers

  • From: Melanie Kendell <melanie.kendell@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:25:40 +1000

Geoffrey, what have you got against Quambatook :-)

-Mel

2009/6/4 Geoffrey Marnell <geoffrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> But the point is, Matthew, you gave us nothing more than a quotation from "a
> researcher". No name, no qualifications, no reference to any peer-reviewed
> publication. For all we knew, you could have been quoting a wheat farmer
> from the Wimmera who does a spot of market research on a Saturday afternoon
> at the Quambatook Sale Yards ... and for all we now know you are quoting
> someone who apparently has a doctorate and does research of some kind. Maybe
> what she said is true, but it helps no one assess the quality of what she
> has said if we are given no clues about the quality of her research.
>
> As for the quality of the doctor's language, you did her no favours by
> quoting her in full when a judicious ellipsis could, without robbing the
> meaning, have hidden the infelicities. While clarity of writing (and speech)
> doesn't necessarily indicate clarity of mind, muddled writing (and speech)
> certainly does suggest a muddled mind. And muddled it certainly was.
>
> It pays to sift the knowledge from all the so-called information flooding
> through cyberspace.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Geoffrey Marnell
> Principal Consultant
> Abelard Consulting Pty Ltd
> T: +61 3 9596 3456
> F: +61 3 9596 3625
> W: www.abelard.com.au
>
> ________________________________
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew da Silva
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:46 PM
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: Blogging and employers
>
> Geoffrey,
>
>
>
> I think it makes a difference to remember that this was a spoken
> conversation and people are less thoughtful when speaking, than when
> writing. I imagine Dr Anderson would be more careful about her grammar if
> she were asked questions by email. We spoke on the phone for about 15
> minutes.
>
>
>
> Extra cheers,
>
>
>
> Matthew da Silva
>
> BA (Hons) MMediaPrac
>
> m  0434 536 772  |  e  mddasilva@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> w  matthewdasilva.com
>
>
>
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Marnell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:41 PM
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: Blogging and employers
>
>
>
> But Matthew, what does this really mean? It reads like post-modernist,
> everything-gores drivel: a series of conceptually fractured clauses—aka non
> sequiturs—starting down one alley, ending down another. "As a researcher in
> the area...": Que? "As a wheat farmer in the Wimmera,  I reckon that string
> theory is a bit of multi-universal nonsense. Well, good on you.
>
>
>
> This is one of the many problems with the anyone-can-be-an-expert (aka
> Wikipedia-based) blogosphere. Who really gives a rats what Dr Donelittle
> from Quambatook thinks?
>
>
>
> Cheers-less
>
>
>
>
>
> Geoffrey Marnell
>
> Principal Consultant
>
> Abelard Consulting Pty Ltd
>
> T: +61 3 9596 3456
>
> F: +61 3 9596 3625
>
> W: www.abelard.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew da Silva
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:34 PM
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: Blogging and employers
>
> Quote:
>
>
>
> "As a researcher in the area, my reading of that sort of negativity is more
> to do with intergenerational issues and the fact that, in our current
> climate, I think a lot of times the use of some of these newer media tools,
> like social networking sites, is seen as so much in the domain of a younger
> generation. There’s a confounding of the situation because I don’t think
> intergenerational challenges are new, nor has our human response to new
> technology been something new. It’s been with us for a long time, as well."
>
>
>
> Matthew da Silva
>
> BA (Hons) MMediaPrac
>
> m  0434 536 772  |  e  mddasilva@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> w  matthewdasilva.com
>
>
>
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart Burnfield
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:32 PM
> To: Austechwriter
> Subject: atw: Re: Blogging and employers
>
>
>
> Grr! That should be: "I'm not sure what you *mean* by this..."
>
> Stuart
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart Burnfield" <slb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Austechwriter" <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 June, 2009 5:56:01 PM GMT +08:00 Perth
> Subject: Re: Blogging and employers
>
> Hi Matthew -
>
>> I spoke to a researcher recently who said that many of
>> the 'issues' experienced with new apps, such as those
>> grouped under the rubric 'Web 2.0', are intergenerational.
>
> I'm not sure what you many by this (many of the issues are
> intergenerational). Could you explain?
>
> Stuart
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