*I have my thoughts on the matter. What President in history has
ever gotten involved with a local police department’s incident?*
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Sunday, December 14, 2014 3:11 AM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
I don’t either. Maybe only just starting.
On Dec 14, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx
<mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
I just think the whole thing is rediculous to be honest with
u. All this protesting and fighting. I have a sneaky feeling
things aren't over yet.
veOn 12/13/2014 10:43 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
No it isn’t but it furthers certain agendas. The people
wanting to push said agenda have tried it for the past
several years but all cases fell apart. These that are
going on now probably will too. The people in power will
pay lip service to the protesters until it actually
threatens them, then watch out.
On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Stacey
<crazystacey25@xxxxxxx <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in the
wrong. The police officer was defending himself. Why
can't some people get that through their heads? Is
fighting and protesting really gonna solve anything?
On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or
retired out some of them were hoping that the
Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t
glad they didn’t. They were already in trouble,
he would have probably gotten them in more trouble.
On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take
a look at Lane Kieffan, he leaves and who
suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce
Pearl and the basketball program. Even after
Bruce was penalized from coaching, I think UT
suffered penalties. Of course there are going
to be some reprocussions on the program just
because the coach is connected, but in a way I
think our teams suffered more than the
coaches. Probably just a biased opinion, but
ya know.
Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There
is no way that it could have went on that long
and the situations continued without someone
speaking up about it.
The whole concept of innocent until proven
guilty does not apply anymore. The concept is
now guilty until you prove yourself innocent.
Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you
as innocent until proven guilty, the rest of
the public are ready to hang you before they
even hear the evidence. A clear example of
this occurred the other day in class. After
the Grand Jury came back with a not guilty
verdict in Ferguson my professor asked the
classs what they thought about the incident.
The responses were well they knew if they
found him not guilty they were going to have a
riot, they should have just found him guilty
to keep the rioting from occurring, he was
wrong for shooting Michael Brown, etc.
However, not one person made a comment
regarding the evidence in the case. If you do
not follow the directions of the police expect
to be met with reprocussions. If you try to
get the officers gun expect to get shot
because I can guarantee that if all these
sideline judges were put in this same
situation they would want to go home to their
family as well and not sit idly by and let
some random citizen adolescent or adult take
their gun to shoot them with it. It is insane
the autopsy was done, and then if I am not
mistaken Obuma was not satisfied with the
results so he ordered another autopsy, and I
think there were a few more autopsies done
before they moved forward. How can you convict
a person that was engaging in self defense?
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
Unfortunately it sounds like in some of
On the sports media down there they are
already convicted. Sounds like a
convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot
of them are anyway.
Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten
UT and the whole 9 yards, yet Pen State gets
off pretty easy. There’s still a lot of
idiots around there that think that school is
blameless and inocent with what went on there.
Maybe UT should have set up in a much more
isolated spot like Pen State did. Of course
I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is
partially how Pen State has gotten away with a
lot more for much longer. A definite little
theefdom there. Meanwhile schools like OSU
get nailed for a lot less and get threatened
with the chop. Makes Illinois’s recruiting
violation back in the early 90s look like
chump change too, yet they were threatened
with full shut down of all sports activity. I
guess it’s who you know in the NCAA. Which
seems to me to be as clean as the driven
slush. I guess in the whole UT situation it
was the school that stepped in and sat them
down, but don’t know all of the details of the
whole deal. Guess we’ll hear something though
if they decide to pursue a case on them.
Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat
regarding rape allegations against two of the
football players. I just read today that one
of the girl’s boyfriends is on the football
team as well. I read on that the boyfriend
caught her, and the girl is on the rowing
team. So, there are more elements to the
story, but KPD announced last night that there
investigation was complete and being sent to
the D.A.’s office to see if charges will be
pursued. It is a tragic situation either way
because if they are guilty then they have not
only ruined their careers, but also ruined the
victims lives. If they are not guilty, then I
would say there will not be a decision until
after the bowl game which will prevent them
from playing in the game. Not too mention that
if they are found not guilty there will still
be people holding it against them. So, either
way it is a major black mark on these players.
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
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*Sent:*Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM
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*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is
often not noticed until he’s gotten 10 yards
down the field if he can pull off the fake.
If they then concentrate to much attention
looking for him to run then he then is able to
either use a running back or tail back or
pass. Thats why option offense is harder to
defend. You have to have a QB that can take
some punishment though, no frail guys as QB,
or guys who can’t work outside of a pocket of
protection. For those it’s a disaster for
them to try to run the ball themselves. Does
though is in pretty good shape physically.
He’s taken sacks pretty well already this
year too. There have been a few reckless
plays, but learning from them will cure those.
But that whole offense well really the whole
team is having to learn because there’s so
many freshman on that team this year. They
are already coming together as a unit pretty
good, could be quite interesting even in a
couple of years, let alone 3 years from now.
On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I would say the QB also then becomes a
target for the rest of the teams to take
out. So, he needs to be careful or he will
be a true red shirt.
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
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*Sent:*Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM
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*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
He did play in the Bamma game, but he
wasn’t the starter I don’t think. I think
they would have at least taken Florida
though, and maybe Georgia, and that would
have changed things a lot for U T. Dobs
fits in to the type of offense that Butch
Jones likes to run which of course is an
option heavy offense. No problem with
that, because your QB becomes a direct
offensive weapon at that point. It is
either going to work or not. There isn’t
a middle ground, usually it works though.
On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It does sound like interesting things
are happening. I have a feeling that
if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of
the year the florida game and the
Georgia game would have looked much
different. I cannot remember if Dobbs
played during the Alabama game or not,
but I know all their games were close
calls this past season.
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
Even more surprising is that Illinois
managed to get in also. Won just
enough games in Big 10 this year.
It’s been a long time.
Interesting baseball trades going on
today too. Sox are definitely getting
aggressive about trading. Picked up a
closer something that they didn’t have
last year because the guy they wanted
to be closer was hurt early. Then
they turn around and pick up Semarja
to beef up their starting rotation.
Cubs have already been dealing, they
don’t have many secrets as to who they
are wanting, although the Lester deal
hasn’t happened yet. But if they pick
him up that will anchor their starting
rotation quite a bit too.
As for TN, I still say thats a team to
be watching out for. The SEC east
isn’t a super strong devision, it can
be taken and not have to get around a
team like Alabama.Depends on
recruiting but they’ve already
improved over last year’s team despite
injuries etc. They don’t give up,
unlike the Chicago Bears who seeo just
curl up in a ball.
Illini basketball is looking pretty
interesting this year too and they’ve
already landed a major recruit to
start next year. Lots of things on
the sports plate, something that is
needed since Da Bears are so bad this
year.
On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Well, we managed to get into a
bowl game this year. Butch just
got a pay raise and a contract
extension.
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Wednesday, November 19,
2014 2:59 AM
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*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
Yep, keep an eye on those Vols,
they are going to be heard in the
next year tr two seriously the way
things are going. They’ve had a
lot of injuries, but still manage
to keep on going to some degree.
Yes the style of offense they play
actually fits Dobs better than the
guy they had start the year, Dobs
himself becomes a weapon because
he can take more punishment
running the ball himself. Even in
the Bama game they did’t give up
even though Bama got a two score
lead within the first couple of
minutes of the game.
Yes this whole internet thing is a
great invention, have listened to
more Tennessee games this year
than Illinois games, although I
did hear the Illini Gofers game
and like everybody else was
surprised they actually pulled
that one off. I bet the Gofers
were surprised the most coming in
with only 1 Big 10 loss at the
time. Think they looked over the
Illini and got burned on that one.
Well it serves them right they
derailed the Illini a number of
times in the past.
On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM,
Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I can’t comment on NFL, but I
am proud of what I have seen
out of the Vols this year. It
hasn’t been a stellar season,
but the games we have played
haven’t been blow outs either.
In fact I heard yesterday I
guess it was one more win for
the Vols and we will be going
to a bowl game. I wish they
had of put Josh Dobbs in
earlier in the season rather
than redshirting him as it
may have caused more upsets
especially with Muschimp and
those Gators. Sorry for the
hi-jack, but I am known for
hijacking post. Right? *LOL*
*From:*audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]*On
Behalf Of*Thomas McMahan
*Sent:*Monday, November 17,
2014 5:39 PM
*To:*audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re:
Ghost Town
The Bears have done a lot of
that loosing this year
especially to teams that
logically would be worse than
them. Up until yesterday even
playing at home wasn’t helping
them out. But the NFL this
year is completely goofy anyway.
On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25
AM, BethAnn LaPresta
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<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Hi everyone. Nothing
exciting on this end, just
working and trying to do
some projects around the
house for the
appraisal...trying to
refinance and get some
cash out of the house to
pay for it all. LOL
My oldest turned 29 on
Friday and apparently ate
the entire jello cake
yesterday (with the
exception of 3 pieces I
made him share with his
friends/brother). The
Seattle Seahawks lost, so
I left right after that to
avoid the inevitable
"crabby" that would be
expressed about the loss.
Hope you all have a Happy
Thanksgiving!
BethAnn
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<copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
*To:*"audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
<audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*Sent:*Sunday, November
16, 2014 10:35 PM
*Subject:*[audio-pals] Re:
Ghost Town
Hello, Josh and Tom.
Everything is okay here
in snowy Ohio. The snow
is coming down here and I
am looking forward to
going out and playing in
it with Selah. well, she
will play...I wouldn't do
anything so childish as
that...lol
Hope everyone who
celebraates it, has a
wonderful and blessed
Thanksgiving. No turkey
here of course...can't
trust it. chicken and
dumplings here for us.
The store killed chicken
little for this dish not
me!!!!
Hugs to you Bethie!!!!!
Happy birthday to my
oldest nephew who just
turned 29. OMG, I'm old.
Who let them grow up?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56
PM, Thomas McMahan
<shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx
<mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Nope you’re still in the
list and so should
everybody else bee, it’s
just been dead quiet lately.
Heather probably has the
bus running again and she
and George and Pete and
who knows who else are
probably driving around
and stopping at Wal-marts
in Canada again trying to
get Liz’s attention. But
I’m not sure they are
going to get Liz’s
attention *lol*.
Got an e-mail from Suzi
off list so know she’s
alive too. BethAnn might
be doing another batch of
sessions of closet rap for
her next album release or
something, or she’s
waiting to sell you a
house Josh. It might be
“the perfect place.” Or
maybe not depends on who’s
standard of perfection is
being used perhaps.
Don’t know about Don.
Danny though is alive and
well, eating lots and lots
of cream corn, well
probably every meal he
eats is cream corn,
because he doesn’t like it
so he has been placed into
the cream corn factor.
Patti continues to improve
bit by bit, gets a little
more talkative over time
at times. She has a
couple of appointments
coming in December, one is
physical, the other is the
Neurologist. But I’m
thinking generally things
will be going in the right
direction for her as afar
as they are concerned.
On Nov 16, 2014, at
10:20 PM, Josh
<lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Hello,
How is everyone doing?
I have not seen any
post from the list in
a few weeks now. I am
wondering if I have
not gotten myself
booted somehow
unintentionally. I
guess the last I seen
any post was Tom and I
interacting about the
family issues. The
issues are not a
hundred percent, but I
do feel that since
Amanda stood up and
stood her ground we
have gotten more
respect. Now, it seems
as though we are
actualy people and not
servants. However,
that could change at
any moment. Well, we
have our
prequalification
letter and have found
a few houses that we
are interested in. We
have to call tomorrow
and get a real estate
agent. Getting the
prequal was a bit ofa
hassle though. Today
Amanda and I went and
bought little man some
birthday presents and
got his location
reserved. Sometime
this week we have to
get the invitations
filled-out. Amanda and
I are in the home
stretch of the
semester and
everything seems to be
going alright. I am in
one class where I will
not know if I passed
or failed until the
final grade comes out
since 50% of the
points aren’t going to
be figured until the
end of the semester.
Amanda as far as I
know is doing fine in
her classes, she has
some projects that she
is working on, but I
belive they are going
fine. So, as always we
have a ton of things
going on, but little
time **LOL**. Have a
good one and I hope to
be able to read some
list traffic here in a
few days. Take care
and chat later.
