[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
- From: Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>
- To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:09:56 -0600
Don’t think so, think there were other politics involved probably.
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I agree with u, the state should have taken care of that. Makes me wonder
> what state officials were thinking. Did they like have their heads in the
> clouds hoping this would just go away? Because it doesn't work like that.
> On 12/14/2014 3:15 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>> It’s setting a dangerous pressedent thats for sure, but some other things
>> that have been done lately also stretch boundaries.
>>
>> Should have been handled by the State, they have their Militia they can call
>> up, and had it called up, but hadn’t had them moved to Ferguson. Sort of
>> like Bengazzi in a way, but don’t know if the delay was from the Feds or the
>> State. Chicago was ready when the UN did their thing a couple of years ago,
>> they weren’t going to put up with masses of folks getting out of line. They
>> usually don’t. But listening to the media back then you would have thought
>> they were going to come and it would be the end of the world as we know it.
>> Well they were able to do their protesting and parading, but any that got
>> out of line quickly found themselves isolated and boxed in by the law and
>> then whatever they were doing stopped quick.
>>
>> Of course those protesters probably weren’t interested in burning down
>> neighborhoods, but if they hadn’t have been ready for them something like
>> that could have eventually happened.
>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> U know that's a good question. Is it really Obama's concern to be getting
>>> involved with this? Shouldn't he be dealing with more pressing matters?
>>> Like isis? The situation in Missouri will be old news eventually, but I
>>> think isis poses a larger threat to America than something small in
>>> Missouri that shouldn't have caused such an up roar in the first place.
>>> Michael Brown was in the wrong. They can't seem to grasp that idea.
>>> On 12/14/2014 7:14 AM, Josh wrote:
>>>> I have my thoughts on the matter. What President in history has ever
>>>> gotten involved with a local police department’s incident?
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 3:11 AM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> I don’t either. Maybe only just starting.
>>>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just think the whole thing is rediculous to be honest with u. All this
>>>> protesting and fighting. I have a sneaky feeling things aren't over yet.
>>>> veOn 12/13/2014 10:43 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>>>> No it isn’t but it furthers certain agendas. The people wanting to push
>>>> said agenda have tried it for the past several years but all cases fell
>>>> apart. These that are going on now probably will too. The people in
>>>> power will pay lip service to the protesters until it actually threatens
>>>> them, then watch out.
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in the wrong. The police
>>>> officer was defending himself. Why can't some people get that through
>>>> their heads? Is fighting and protesting really gonna solve anything?
>>>> On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>>>> I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or retired out some of them were
>>>> hoping that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t glad
>>>> they didn’t. They were already in trouble, he would have probably gotten
>>>> them in more trouble.
>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he
>>>> leaves and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl and
>>>> the basketball program. Even after Bruce was penalized from coaching, I
>>>> think UT suffered penalties. Of course there are going to be some
>>>> reprocussions on the program just because the coach is connected, but in a
>>>> way I think our teams suffered more than the coaches. Probably just a
>>>> biased opinion, but ya know.
>>>> Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way
>>>> that it could have went on that long and the situations continued without
>>>> someone speaking up about it.
>>>> The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does not
>>>> apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself
>>>> innocent. Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent until
>>>> proven guilty, the rest
>>>> of the public are ready to hang you before they even hear the evidence. A
>>>> clear example of this occurred the other day in class. After the Grand
>>>> Jury came back with a not guilty verdict in Ferguson my professor asked
>>>> the classs what they thought about the incident. The responses were well
>>>> they knew if they found him not guilty they were going to have a riot,
>>>> they should have just found him guilty to keep the rioting from occurring,
>>>> he was wrong for shooting Michael Brown, etc. However, not one person made
>>>> a comment regarding the evidence in the case. If you do not follow the
>>>> directions of the police expect to be met with reprocussions. If you try
>>>> to get the officers gun expect to get shot because I can guarantee that if
>>>> all these sideline judges were put in this same situation they would want
>>>> to go home to their family as well and not sit idly by and let some random
>>>> citizen adolescent or adult take their gun to shoot them with it. It is
>>>> insane the autopsy was done, and then if I am not mistaken Obuma was not
>>>> satisfied with the results so he ordered another autopsy, and I think
>>>> there were a few more autopsies done before they moved forward. How can
>>>> you convict a person that was engaging in self defense?
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it sounds like in some of
>>>> On the sports media down there they are already convicted. Sounds like a
>>>> convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, yet
>>>> Pen State gets off pretty easy. There’s still a lot of idiots around
>>>> there that think that school is blameless and inocent with what went on
>>>> there. Maybe UT should have set up in a much more isolated spot like Pen
>>>> State did. Of course I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is
>>>> partially how Pen State has gotten
>>>> away with a lot more for much longer. A definite little
>>>> theefdom there. Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed for a lot less and
>>>> get threatened with the chop. Makes Illinois’s recruiting violation back
>>>> in the early 90s look like chump change too, yet they were threatened with
>>>> full shut down of all sports activity. I guess it’s who you know in the
>>>> NCAA. Which seems to me to be as clean as the driven slush. I guess in
>>>> the whole UT situation it was the school that stepped in and sat them
>>>> down, but don’t know all of the details of the whole deal. Guess we’ll
>>>> hear something though if they decide to pursue a case on them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations
>>>> against two of the football players. I just read today that one of the
>>>> girl’s boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the
>>>> boyfriend caught her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are
>>>> more elements to the story, but KPD announced last night that there
>>>> investigation was complete and being sent to the D.A.’s office to see
>>>> if charges will be
>>>> pursued. It is a tragic situation either way because if they are guilty
>>>> then they have not only ruined their careers, but also ruined the victims
>>>> lives. If they are not guilty, then I would say there will not be a
>>>> decision until after the bowl game which will prevent them from playing in
>>>> the game. Not too mention that if they are found not guilty there will
>>>> still be people holding it against them. So, either way it is a major
>>>> black mark on these players.
>>>>
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s
>>>> gotten 10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake. If they then
>>>> concentrate to much attention looking for him to run then he then is able
>>>> to either use a running back or tail back or pass. Thats why option
>>>> offense is harder to defend. You have to have a QB that can take some
>>>> punishment though, no frail guys as QB, or guys who can’t work outside of
>>>> a pocket of protection. For those it’s a disaster for them to try to run
>>>> the ball themselves. Does though is in pretty good shape physically.
>>>> He’s taken sacks pretty well already this year too. There have been a few
>>>> reckless plays, but learning from them will cure those. But that whole
>>>> offense well really the whole team is having to learn because there’s so
>>>> many freshman on that team this year. They are already coming together as
>>>> a unit pretty good, could be quite interesting even in a couple of years,
>>>> let alone 3 years from now.
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the teams to
>>>> take out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red shirt.
>>>>
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t think. I
>>>> think they would have at least taken Florida though, and maybe Georgia,
>>>> and that would have changed things a lot for U T. Dobs fits in to the
>>>> type of offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of course is an option
>>>> heavy offense. No problem with that, because your QB becomes a direct
>>>> offensive weapon at that point. It is either going to work or not. There
>>>> isn’t a middle ground, usually it works though.
>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling that
>>>> if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game and the
>>>> Georgia game would have looked much different. I cannot remember if Dobbs
>>>> played during the Alabama game or not, but I know all their games were
>>>> close calls this past season.
>>>>
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also. Won just
>>>> enough games in Big 10 this year. It’s been a long time.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting baseball trades going on today too. Sox are definitely
>>>> getting aggressive about trading. Picked up a closer something that they
>>>> didn’t have last year because the guy they wanted to be closer was hurt
>>>> early. Then they turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up their
>>>> starting rotation. Cubs have already been dealing, they don’t have many
>>>> secrets as to who they are wanting, although the Lester deal hasn’t
>>>> happened yet. But if they pick him up that will anchor their starting
>>>> rotation quite a bit too.
>>>>
>>>> As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for. The SEC east
>>>> isn’t a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to get around
>>>> a team like Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve already improved
>>>> over last year’s team despite injuries etc. They don’t give up, unlike
>>>> the Chicago Bears who seeo just curl up in a ball.
>>>>
>>>> Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and they’ve
>>>> already landed a major recruit to start next year. Lots of things on the
>>>> sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears are so bad this
>>>> year.
>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a pay
>>>> raise and a contract extension.
>>>>
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the next
>>>> year tr two seriously the way things are going. They’ve had a lot of
>>>> injuries, but still manage to keep on going to some degree.
>>>>
>>>> Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than the guy
>>>> they had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon because he can take
>>>> more punishment running the ball himself. Even in the Bama game they
>>>> did’t give up even though Bama got a two score lead within the first
>>>> couple of minutes of the game.
>>>>
>>>> Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to more
>>>> Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did hear the
>>>> Illini Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised they actually
>>>> pulled that one off. I bet the Gofers were surprised the most coming in
>>>> with only 1 Big 10 loss at the time. Think they looked over the Illini
>>>> and got burned on that one. Well it serves them right they derailed the
>>>> Illini a number of times in the past.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of the Vols
>>>> this year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games we have played
>>>> haven’t been blow outs either. In fact I heard yesterday I guess it was
>>>> one more win for the Vols and we will be going to a bowl game. I wish they
>>>> had of put Josh Dobbs in earlier in the season rather than redshirting him
>>>> as it may have caused more upsets especially with Muschimp and those
>>>> Gators. Sorry for the hi-jack, but I am known for hijacking post. Right?
>>>> *LOL*
>>>>
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 PM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to teams
>>>> that logically would be worse than them. Up until yesterday even playing
>>>> at home wasn’t helping them out. But the NFL this year is completely
>>>> goofy anyway.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender
>>>> "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>" for DMARC)
>>>> <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone. Nothing exciting on this end, just working and trying to do
>>>> some projects around the house for the appraisal...trying to refinance and
>>>> get some cash out of the house to pay for it all. LOL
>>>>
>>>> My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello cake
>>>> yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share with his
>>>> friends/brother). The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left right after that
>>>> to avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be expressed about the loss.
>>>>
>>>> Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>>>> BethAnn
>>>>
>>>> From: Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> To: "audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
>>>> <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:35 PM
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> Hello, Josh and Tom. Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio. The snow is
>>>> coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and playing in it
>>>> with Selah. well, she will play...I wouldn't do anything so childish as
>>>> that...lol
>>>>
>>>> Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed
>>>> Thanksgiving. No turkey here of course...can't trust it. chicken and
>>>> dumplings here for us. The store killed chicken little for this dish not
>>>> me!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Hugs to you Bethie!!!!! Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who just
>>>> turned 29. OMG, I'm old. Who let them grow up?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, it’s just
>>>> been dead quiet lately.
>>>>
>>>> Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and Pete and
>>>> who knows who else are probably driving around and stopping at Wal-marts
>>>> in Canada again trying to get Liz’s attention. But I’m not sure they are
>>>> going to get Liz’s attention *lol*.
>>>>
>>>> Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too. BethAnn might
>>>> be doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her next album
>>>> release or something, or she’s waiting to sell you a house Josh. It might
>>>> be “the perfect place.” Or maybe not depends on who’s standard of
>>>> perfection is being used perhaps.
>>>>
>>>> Don’t know about Don. Danny though is alive and well, eating lots and
>>>> lots of cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream corn,
>>>> because he doesn’t like it so he has been placed into the cream corn
>>>> factor.
>>>>
>>>> Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more talkative over
>>>> time at times. She has a couple of appointments coming in December, one
>>>> is physical, the other is the Neurologist. But I’m thinking generally
>>>> things will be going in the right direction for her as afar as they are
>>>> concerned.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list in a few
>>>> weeks now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself booted somehow
>>>> unintentionally. I guess the last I seen any post was Tom and I
>>>> interacting about the family issues. The issues are not a hundred percent,
>>>> but I do feel that since Amanda stood up and stood her ground we have
>>>> gotten more respect. Now, it seems as though we are actualy people and not
>>>> servants. However, that could change at any moment. Well, we have our
>>>> prequalification letter and have found a few houses that we are interested
>>>> in. We have to call tomorrow and get a real estate agent. Getting the
>>>> prequal was a bit ofa hassle though. Today Amanda and I went and bought
>>>> little man some birthday presents and got his location reserved. Sometime
>>>> this week we have to get the invitations filled-out. Amanda and I are in
>>>> the home stretch of the semester and everything seems to be going alright.
>>>> I am in one class where I will not know if I passed or failed until the
>>>> final grade comes out since 50% of the points aren’t going to be figured
>>>> until the end of the semester. Amanda as far as I know is doing fine in
>>>> her classes, she has some projects that she is working on, but I belive
>>>> they are going fine. So, as always we have a ton of things going on, but
>>>> little time *LOL*. Have a good one and I hope to be able to read some list
>>>> traffic here in a few days. Take care and chat later.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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