[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
- From: Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>
- To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 02:10:34 -0600
I don’t either. Maybe only just starting.
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I just think the whole thing is rediculous to be honest with u. All this
> protesting and fighting. I have a sneaky feeling things aren't over yet.
> veOn 12/13/2014 10:43 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>> No it isn’t but it furthers certain agendas. The people wanting to push
>> said agenda have tried it for the past several years but all cases fell
>> apart. These that are going on now probably will too. The people in power
>> will pay lip service to the protesters until it actually threatens them,
>> then watch out.
>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in the wrong. The police officer
>>> was defending himself. Why can't some people get that through their heads?
>>> Is fighting and protesting really gonna solve anything?
>>> On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>>>> I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or retired out some of them were
>>>> hoping that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t glad
>>>> they didn’t. They were already in trouble, he would have probably gotten
>>>> them in more trouble.
>>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he
>>>>> leaves and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl and
>>>>> the basketball program. Even after Bruce was penalized from coaching, I
>>>>> think UT suffered penalties. Of course there are going to be some
>>>>> reprocussions on the program just because the coach is connected, but in
>>>>> a way I think our teams suffered more than the coaches. Probably just a
>>>>> biased opinion, but ya know.
>>>>> Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way
>>>>> that it could have went on that long and the situations continued without
>>>>> someone speaking up about it.
>>>>> The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does
>>>>> not apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself
>>>>> innocent. Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent until
>>>>> proven guilty, the rest of the public are ready to hang you before they
>>>>> even hear the evidence. A clear example of this occurred the other day in
>>>>> class. After the Grand Jury came back with a not guilty verdict in
>>>>> Ferguson my professor asked the classs what they thought about the
>>>>> incident. The responses were well they knew if they found him not guilty
>>>>> they were going to have a riot, they should have just found him guilty to
>>>>> keep the rioting from occurring, he was wrong for shooting Michael Brown,
>>>>> etc. However, not one person made a comment regarding the evidence in the
>>>>> case. If you do not follow the directions of the police expect to be met
>>>>> with reprocussions. If you try to get the officers gun expect to get shot
>>>>> because I can guarantee that if all these sideline judges were put in
>>>>> this same situation they would want to go home to their family as well
>>>>> and not sit idly by and let some random citizen adolescent or adult take
>>>>> their gun to shoot them with it. It is insane the autopsy was done, and
>>>>> then if I am not mistaken Obuma was not satisfied with the results so he
>>>>> ordered another autopsy, and I think there were a few more autopsies done
>>>>> before they moved forward. How can you convict a person that was engaging
>>>>> in self defense?
>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM
>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it sounds like in some of
>>>>>> On the sports media down there they are already convicted. Sounds like
>>>>>> a convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards,
>>>>> yet Pen State gets off pretty easy. There’s still a lot of idiots around
>>>>> there that think that school is blameless and inocent with what went on
>>>>> there. Maybe UT should have set up in a much more isolated spot like Pen
>>>>> State did. Of course I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is
>>>>> partially how Pen State has gotten away with a lot more for much longer.
>>>>> A definite little theefdom there. Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed
>>>>> for a lot less and get threatened with the chop. Makes Illinois’s
>>>>> recruiting violation back in the early 90s look like chump change too,
>>>>> yet they were threatened with full shut down of all sports activity. I
>>>>> guess it’s who you know in the NCAA. Which seems to me to be as clean as
>>>>> the driven slush. I guess in the whole UT situation it was the school
>>>>> that stepped in and sat them down, but don’t know all of the details of
>>>>> the whole deal. Guess we’ll hear something though if they decide to
>>>>> pursue a case on them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations
>>>>> against two of the football players. I just read today that one of the
>>>>> girl’s boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the
>>>>> boyfriend caught her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are
>>>>> more elements to the story, but KPD announced last night that there
>>>>> investigation was complete and being sent to the D.A.’s office to see if
>>>>> charges will be pursued. It is a tragic situation either way because if
>>>>> they are guilty then they have not only ruined their careers, but also
>>>>> ruined the victims lives. If they are not guilty, then I would say there
>>>>> will not be a decision until after the bowl game which will prevent them
>>>>> from playing in the game. Not too mention that if they are found not
>>>>> guilty there will still be people holding it against them. So, either way
>>>>> it is a major black mark on these players.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM
>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>
>>>>> But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s
>>>>> gotten 10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake. If they then
>>>>> concentrate to much attention looking for him to run then he then is able
>>>>> to either use a running back or tail back or pass. Thats why option
>>>>> offense is harder to defend. You have to have a QB that can take some
>>>>> punishment though, no frail guys as QB, or guys who can’t work outside of
>>>>> a pocket of protection. For those it’s a disaster for them to try to run
>>>>> the ball themselves. Does though is in pretty good shape physically.
>>>>> He’s taken sacks pretty well already this year too. There have been a
>>>>> few reckless plays, but learning from them will cure those. But that
>>>>> whole offense well really the whole team is having to learn because
>>>>> there’s so many freshman on that team this year. They are already coming
>>>>> together as a unit pretty good, could be quite interesting even in a
>>>>> couple of years, let alone 3 years from now.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the teams
>>>>>> to take out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red shirt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM
>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t think.
>>>>>> I think they would have at least taken Florida though, and maybe
>>>>>> Georgia, and that would have changed things a lot for U T. Dobs fits in
>>>>>> to the type of offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of course is
>>>>>> an option heavy offense. No problem with that, because your QB becomes
>>>>>> a direct offensive weapon at that point. It is either going to work or
>>>>>> not. There isn’t a middle ground, usually it works though.
>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling
>>>>>>> that if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game and
>>>>>>> the Georgia game would have looked much different. I cannot remember if
>>>>>>> Dobbs played during the Alabama game or not, but I know all their games
>>>>>>> were close calls this past season.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM
>>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also. Won just
>>>>>>> enough games in Big 10 this year. It’s been a long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting baseball trades going on today too. Sox are definitely
>>>>>>> getting aggressive about trading. Picked up a closer something that
>>>>>>> they didn’t have last year because the guy they wanted to be closer was
>>>>>>> hurt early. Then they turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up their
>>>>>>> starting rotation. Cubs have already been dealing, they don’t have
>>>>>>> many secrets as to who they are wanting, although the Lester deal
>>>>>>> hasn’t happened yet. But if they pick him up that will anchor their
>>>>>>> starting rotation quite a bit too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for. The SEC
>>>>>>> east isn’t a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to get
>>>>>>> around a team like Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve already
>>>>>>> improved over last year’s team despite injuries etc. They don’t give
>>>>>>> up, unlike the Chicago Bears who seeo just curl up in a ball.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and
>>>>>>> they’ve already landed a major recruit to start next year. Lots of
>>>>>>> things on the sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears are
>>>>>>> so bad this year.
>>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a
>>>>>>>> pay raise and a contract extension.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM
>>>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the next
>>>>>>>> year tr two seriously the way things are going. They’ve had a lot of
>>>>>>>> injuries, but still manage to keep on going to some degree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than the
>>>>>>>> guy they had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon because he
>>>>>>>> can take more punishment running the ball himself. Even in the Bama
>>>>>>>> game they did’t give up even though Bama got a two score lead within
>>>>>>>> the first couple of minutes of the game.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to
>>>>>>>> more Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did
>>>>>>>> hear the Illini Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised they
>>>>>>>> actually pulled that one off. I bet the Gofers were surprised the
>>>>>>>> most coming in with only 1 Big 10 loss at the time. Think they looked
>>>>>>>> over the Illini and got burned on that one. Well it serves them right
>>>>>>>> they derailed the Illini a number of times in the past.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of the
>>>>>>>>> Vols this year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games we
>>>>>>>>> have played haven’t been blow outs either. In fact I heard yesterday
>>>>>>>>> I guess it was one more win for the Vols and we will be going to a
>>>>>>>>> bowl game. I wish they had of put Josh Dobbs in earlier in the season
>>>>>>>>> rather than redshirting him as it may have caused more upsets
>>>>>>>>> especially with Muschimp and those Gators. Sorry for the hi-jack, but
>>>>>>>>> I am known for hijacking post. Right? *LOL*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to
>>>>>>>>> teams that logically would be worse than them. Up until yesterday
>>>>>>>>> even playing at home wasn’t helping them out. But the NFL this year
>>>>>>>>> is completely goofy anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender
>>>>>>>>>> "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>" for DMARC)
>>>>>>>>>> <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone. Nothing exciting on this end, just working and trying
>>>>>>>>>> to do some projects around the house for the appraisal...trying to
>>>>>>>>>> refinance and get some cash out of the house to pay for it all. LOL
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello
>>>>>>>>>> cake yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share with
>>>>>>>>>> his friends/brother). The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left right
>>>>>>>>>> after that to avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be expressed
>>>>>>>>>> about the loss.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>>>>>>>>>> BethAnn
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
>>>>>>>>>> <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Josh and Tom. Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio. The
>>>>>>>>>> snow is coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and
>>>>>>>>>> playing in it with Selah. well, she will play...I wouldn't do
>>>>>>>>>> anything so childish as that...lol
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed
>>>>>>>>>> Thanksgiving. No turkey here of course...can't trust it. chicken
>>>>>>>>>> and dumplings here for us. The store killed chicken little for this
>>>>>>>>>> dish not me!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hugs to you Bethie!!!!! Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who just
>>>>>>>>>> turned 29. OMG, I'm old. Who let them grow up?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan
>>>>>>>>>> <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx <mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, it’s
>>>>>>>>>> just been dead quiet lately.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and
>>>>>>>>>> Pete and who knows who else are probably driving around and stopping
>>>>>>>>>> at Wal-marts in Canada again trying to get Liz’s attention. But I’m
>>>>>>>>>> not sure they are going to get Liz’s attention *lol*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too. BethAnn
>>>>>>>>>> might be doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her next
>>>>>>>>>> album release or something, or she’s waiting to sell you a house
>>>>>>>>>> Josh. It might be “the perfect place.” Or maybe not depends on
>>>>>>>>>> who’s standard of perfection is being used perhaps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don’t know about Don. Danny though is alive and well, eating lots
>>>>>>>>>> and lots of cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream
>>>>>>>>>> corn, because he doesn’t like it so he has been placed into the
>>>>>>>>>> cream corn factor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more talkative
>>>>>>>>>> over time at times. She has a couple of appointments coming in
>>>>>>>>>> December, one is physical, the other is the Neurologist. But I’m
>>>>>>>>>> thinking generally things will be going in the right direction for
>>>>>>>>>> her as afar as they are concerned.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list in
>>>>>>>>>>> a few weeks now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself booted
>>>>>>>>>>> somehow unintentionally. I guess the last I seen any post was Tom
>>>>>>>>>>> and I interacting about the family issues. The issues are not a
>>>>>>>>>>> hundred percent, but I do feel that since Amanda stood up and stood
>>>>>>>>>>> her ground we have gotten more respect. Now, it seems as though we
>>>>>>>>>>> are actualy people and not servants. However, that could change at
>>>>>>>>>>> any moment. Well, we have our prequalification letter and have
>>>>>>>>>>> found a few houses that we are interested in. We have to call
>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow and get a real estate agent. Getting the prequal was a bit
>>>>>>>>>>> ofa hassle though. Today Amanda and I went and bought little man
>>>>>>>>>>> some birthday presents and
>>>>>>>>>>> got his location reserved. Sometime this week we
>>>>>>>>>>> have to get the invitations filled-out. Amanda and I are in the
>>>>>>>>>>> home stretch of the semester and everything seems to be going
>>>>>>>>>>> alright. I am in one class where I will not know if I passed or
>>>>>>>>>>> failed until the final grade comes out since 50% of the points
>>>>>>>>>>> aren’t going to be figured until the end of the semester. Amanda as
>>>>>>>>>>> far as I know is doing fine in her classes, she has some projects
>>>>>>>>>>> that she is working on, but I belive they are going fine. So, as
>>>>>>>>>>> always we have a ton of things going on, but little time *LOL*.
>>>>>>>>>>> Have a good one and I hope to be able to read some list traffic
>>>>>>>>>>> here in a few days. Take care and chat later.
>>>>
>>>
>>
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